I just went to Dick's Sporting Goods to buy ammo, I had a very interesting conversation with the guy behind the counter while he was loging my purchase. Apperantly the NJSP was over at Dick's yesterday, going thru their log book and writing down the FID numbers of everyone who purchased 1,000 rounds or more of pistol ammo. When the guy asked them why they were writing the numbers down, they said, and I'm paraphrasing, "We are going to look into these purchases".

 

This whole whole situation is getting scariar by the minute!

They are probably just making sure the FIDs are valid numbers.

 

Some guy behind the counter can just plug in whatever fake FID and pocket the ammo for street sales.

First of all do not listen to counter people esp. at Dicks. They have nothing better to do, and love to gossip.

 

Second, if NJSP was their looking at the logs, it was for a specific reason/transaction. They are not going to tell him anything more than he needs to know. And betting by the way the question was asked, i bet it was a general answer to a dumb specific question.

 

Odds are they are investigating one case with leads to that specific retail outlet. Most likely straw purchase of ammo. They don't have the time or desire to start witch hunts. COs wouldn't allow them to waste time like that.

which dicks sporting goods was this

which dicks sporting goods was this

 

So my first thought was, "Which Dicks is this where I can buy 1,000 rounds or more of any ammo????"

So don't buy more than 1,000 rounds at a time if that's the "magic" number.

It's Dick's in Paramus, they had a few cases of 9mm, 1,000 rounds each case.

I'm a little confused, I was under the impression that we were all here, as a community, to help each other out. The moment I say that "The Guy at The Counter At Dick's" said something that sounds very suspicious, and in fact playes to the entire theme of the current environment in NJ, I get jumped on. I have no reason to believe that he was lying. And why were they writing down the numbers of every one who bought a 1,000 rounds? Why not 950 rounds?

I'm a little confused, I was under the impression that we were all here, as a community, to help each other out. The moment I say that "The Guy at The Counter At Dick's" said something that sounds very suspicious, and in fact playes to the entire theme of the current environment in NJ, I get jumped on. I have no reason to believe that he was lying. And why were they writing down the numbers of every one who bought a 1,000 rounds? Why not 950 rounds?

 

We were already not a fan of THAT retailer.

 

I think T Bill might be right in that they were looking into some other issue.

Wether they were doing that or not is irevelant since it's not against the law to buy 1k rounds at a time. So unless they were looking for someone or something specific they can not do a thing except make another list of statistics that wont matter one way or the other.

It sure beats patroling the streets of camden

IMO......go elsewhere.

I'm a little confused, I was under the impression that we were all here, as a community, to help each other out. ... I get jumped on....

 

Don't take it personally Marty. I don't see you as being jumped on, you just happened to open up a topic on a not-well-liked retailer.

 

- Dick's is not loved because they cancelled AR orders that had already been paid for post-Newtown, screwing over not just their customers but also Troy, the manufacturer

 

- Dick's firearms counter employees have historically been, uh, "less than reliable" sources of information on firearms issues in the past in the experience of many.

else where they are price gouging, Dick's has UMC .45 fmj for $24.99.

Don't take it personally Marty. I don't see you as being jumped on, you just happened to open up a topic on a not-well-liked retailer.

 

- Dick's is not loved because they cancelled AR orders that had already been paid for post-Newtown, screwing over not just their customers but also Troy, the manufacturer

 

- Dick's firearms counter employees have historically been, uh, "less than reliable" sources of information on firearms issues in the past in the experience of many.

 

I am well aware of Dick's employees lack of firearms knowledge, I have had my share of experience with their lack of knowledge. But this was not a knowledge issue. Plus, I have been buying ammo from dick's, because of price, for a long time, and i've never heard of state police writing down FID numbers. But if, like others say, they must have been investigating something specific, I will let it go.

Scary things are going to get ugly.

Even if the NJSP is looking into purchases of 1000 rounds or more, so what. So long as the purchaser had a FID its about as illegal as buying a pound of cheese...

eh, the FPID isn't required for ammo purchases, that's just store policy (right?)...

eh, the FPID isn't required for ammo purchases, that's just store policy (right?)...

 

It's required for pistol ammo purchases.

eh, the FPID isn't required for ammo purchases, that's just store policy (right?)...

 

No, a FPID is required for ammunition that can be used in a handgun.

Could they be collecting this info for an upcoming ban on HP ammo?

I'm sure this is related to a case and not some NJSP conspiracy to track ammo purchases. They barely have enough troopers for the road much less for witch hunts

Great! I hope they look statewide and find hundreds of people that buy thousands of rounds at a pop. Since we have not had a massacre in New Jersey, it would argue against bulk ammo purchases being a sign of madness. Just people trying to save a few bucks.

Please come and knock on my door for legally buying 4k rounds of ammo at dicks a few weeks ago legally. My lawyer would have a friggin field day with the NJSP. Anyway *removes tin foil hat* -- I think that they are probably investigating people buying ammo and then pawning it off to people that shouldn't have it.

I just went to Dick's Sporting Goods to buy ammo, I had a very interesting conversation with the guy behind the counter while he was loging my purchase. Apperantly the NJSP was over at Dick's yesterday, going thru their log book and writing down the FID numbers of everyone who purchased 1,000 rounds or more of pistol ammo. When the guy asked them why they were writing the numbers down, they said, and I'm paraphrasing, "We are going to look into these purchases".

 

This whole whole situation is getting scariar by the minute!

 

You have NJSP copying records over 1000 rds and an off the cuff comment by a Trooper. Investigators don't tell people who don't need to know anything they don't need to know. Troopers are not stupid.

 

They are probably just making sure the FIDs are valid numbers.

 

Some guy behind the counter can just plua g in whatever fake FID and pocket the ammo for street sales.

 

You really didn't think about what you were saying when you posted this. IIRC employees selling guns need a license or permit issued by NJSP. This requires at least as much of a background check as a FID. If the guy is a illicit ammo dealer how does he pay for it without a cashier knowing? If the guy is an illicit ammo dealer why doesn't he just go to PA? Criminals are not all stupid.

 

I have over 30 years as a LEO and have never heard of anyone being charged with "illicit ammo sales" on a state level. Those on a Federal level were dealing in millions of rounds.

Could they be collecting this info for an upcoming ban on HP ammo?

 

I don't buy ammo often in NJ but ammo logs I've seen just say "100 rds 9mm" and don't specify bullet type. I could be wrong on that. Also, what difference would it make who bought what and how much. They'd just ban hollowpoints, no sales figures or other reasons needed.

Could be part of a general investigation too. NJSP may be looking to confirm something as simple as an alibi from a guy who said he'd bought ammo at such & such time on such & such day, and had lost the receipt. Sometimes records can be used to keep somebody OUT of a jam too........... Let's NOT get all paranoid!

Now that we have a forum back.

 

MartyZ.............. No disrespect to you. I know you have no reason to believe the salesperson was lying. But, they just love to think they are important doing their menial job. I just find most big box store salespeople do not know or care to know their job or products.

 

We are all here to help one another. Some topics rub people the wrong way and they lash out. Me included. I apologize, buying ammo in NJ has always rubbed me the wrong way. Pet Peeve.

 

 

Buying 1000 rds or more is probably what gets you onto the "terror" watch list that will, if Christie signs, preclude you from buying firearms.

If Troopers have time to look into 1K purchases, something is seriously wrong with this State and you are keeping law enforcement from really doing its job!