So I plan on buying 10-15 acres in PA in the next year or 2 does anybody know if its legal since PA allows class 3's to do the paperwork and purchase a gun to reside in PA or does it have to be in my primary residence of NJ. I obviously know we can't have them here

I've wondered the same myself as my family has a place in South Carolina.

The Local Police Chief/Sherif has to 1st approve this, then the ATF does the indepth back ground check. In order to have the Weapon legally transferred into your name you will have to be a resident of the state to pass part 1, and I highly doubt you will pass part 2. I doubt any Chief of police would sign off on a non resident espically from nj to get a NFA weapon. The only way you may be able to get around this is to form a trust with someone that lives in PA, but I still hightly doubt that it will work.

Just make PA primary residence. Nobody but you knows how much time you spend there... follow what I'm sayin..?

 

Molon Labe

 

 

If you are spending money on land, you ought to be able to spare some money for real legal advice:

 

http://www.jacksonvillelawyer.pro/lawyer-attorney-1315473.html

 

I have a feeling with the appropriate documentation you can set up an NFA gun trust that will get you what you want without too much difficulty. It's all a matter of $$$. $$$ for lawyer advice and drafting, $$$$ for the tax and paperwork, $$$$$$$$$$ for the gun itself (or suppressor, or whatever you want), $$$$ to work out a custodianship arrangement with an appropriately licensed FFL in PA till you establish residency, etc.

 

You don't need any LEO signoff with a trust, so you don't have to worry about that.

Just make PA primary residence. Nobody but you knows how much time you spend there... follow what I'm sayin..?

 

Molon Labe

 

Can't do this due to our governor, I'm a State Law Enforcement officer and therefore must maintain primary residence in NJ

Just make PA primary residence. Nobody but you knows how much time you spend there... follow what I'm sayin..?

 

Molon Labe

 

That maybe a costly way to go since PA has higer tax and loan rates for people who own other homes out of state.

It's also a lie to the ATF which would land you in club Fed for at least 10 years. You may as well just modify your own

rifle and keep it hidden in the basement and not fill out any fourms to anyone.

Sadly enough gun trusts are a loop hole DC will be looking to close.

Can't happen anyways but.. if you actually did like 50/50 time in each place.. who's to say your lying?

 

Molon Labe

 

 

Even with a trust.. I think nfa class 3 items are still a no go in NJ

 

Molon Labe

 

 

Even with a trust.. I think nfa class 3 items are still a no go in NJ

 

Molon Labe

 

Right, but the OP states hes looking into doing it in PA, not NJ.

Its really a bummer. I just got a MK12 which is supposed to be used with the 12th model can. I had to pin/weld the ops inc brake and thread cap over the suppressor threads and I can never get the can that makes for such a much more pleasant shooting experience... lol

 

Nfa stuff is hard enough to get on the federal level and you need to be legit so I can't understand why states ban the stuff entirely.

 

Molon Labe

 

 

 

Right, but the OP states hes looking into doing it in PA, not NJ.

 

But the OP can never have a pa residence or a pa drivers license so it becomes a moot point. The address he puts on all the paperwork would need to be what his ID says...

 

Molon Labe

The Local Police Chief/Sherif has to 1st approve this, then the ATF does the indepth back ground check. In order to have the Weapon legally transferred into your name you will have to be a resident of the state to pass part 1, and I highly doubt you will pass part 2. I doubt any Chief of police would sign off on a non resident espically from nj to get a NFA weapon. The only way you may be able to get around this is to form a trust with someone that lives in PA, but I still hightly doubt that it will work.

 

You don't need a CLEO sign off if you make an NFA Trust...

 

 

Can't do this due to our governor, I'm a State Law Enforcement officer and therefore must maintain primary residence in NJ

 

What's the Governor got to do with residency? Residency has always been required for LEOs in this (and most) states. I think that's fair.

 

 

What's the Governor got to do with residency? Residency has always been required for LEOs in this (and most) states. I think that's fair.

It wasn't required a few years back the governor changed it that's what he has to do with it I'm not saying its not fair I'm explaining why I can't change residency

What are you looking to get?

 

Molon Labe

 

 

What are you looking to get?

 

Molon Labe

When the time comes just be able to do an SBR build and maybe a suppressor for it

 

It wasn't required a few years back the governor changed it that's what he has to do with it I'm not saying its not fair I'm explaining why I can't change residency

 

What kind of job do you have? If you decline to answer I understand why.

thankfully my dept has no residency requirement

 

 

What kind of job do you have? If you decline to answer I understand why.

I work for DOC

thankfully my dept has no residency requirement

Yea but your department only let's you carry 9mm off duty

 

Yea but your department only let's you carry 9mm off duty

 

Damn you..you got me ..lol

It wasn't required a few years back the governor changed it that's what he has to do with it I'm not saying its not fair I'm explaining why I can't change residency

 

What if you lived out of state before he changed it? Would you get grandfathered in? I have a Sgt and Lt that both live in PA

its done all the time

That maybe a costly way to go since PA has higer tax and loan rates for people who own other homes out of state.

It's also a lie to the ATF which would land you in club Fed for at least 10 years. You may as well just modify your own

rifle and keep it hidden in the basement and not fill out any fourms to anyone.

Under ATF rules, you can be a resident of two states for gun buying purposes. Not 100% sure on NFA items, but everything else that is legal in that state can be purchased by a dual resident while they are residing in the other state.

 

 

What if you lived out of state before he changed it? Would you get grandfathered in? I have a Sgt and Lt that both live in PA

Yea my buddy is grandfathered in he lives in Levittown

Yea my buddy is grandfathered in he lives in Levittown

Ok, that's what I figured cause I have a Sgt and a Lt that live in PA.

dont worry, soon u may have to pick another state than PA. they are looking into an AWB themselves. damn libs f*ckin everything up EVERYWHERE!

Under ATF rules, you can be a resident of two states for gun buying purposes. Not 100% sure on NFA items, but everything else that is legal in that state can be purchased by a dual resident while they are residing in the other state.

 

Correct, the answer is YES.

 

As far as ATF is concerned, if you own property in more than one state, you are a resident of the state you are in while you are staying at your property for the purpose of purchasing firearms.  Even if you only live there one day per year. "Primary residence" is not an issue.

 

Although it is OK, there are a couple considerations that might make it more difficult.  First of all, you might want to buy the Title II firearms from a private individual instead of going through an FFL if you can find what you want that way.  Although Class III FFLs are usually more savvy than regular dumbass gun shop people, they would still like to see a driver's license.  Some will let you prove residency other ways, some won't want to bother with it.  You may run into similar hesitation from the Sheriff or local CLEO since they probably don't know or even care, they just know your DL says "East Shithole."  If you start running into these problems you can just form a Trust or LLC to buy the firearms.  Heck, you'll probably even have to convince a private seller of the law and your ATF residency status.