hey guys i am wanting to build my first precision rifle and really dont know much about the subject. i do know i shot at 300 yards (i know it aint much) and i loved it!!!

 

i would like to know some does and dont's..

 

WHAT I WANT FROM IT- i want a long range rifle 300yrds min that i may have the option of expanding onto 600+ as my skill progresses, will not be used for hunting.

 

CALIBER- im thinking 308, you want to stay away from designed hunting rounds i assume

 

RIFLE- i am thinking a 700 possibly a savage 111 variant (i think, not the BA)

 

STOCK- yes i may be wrong in doing this but i want it to feel really "comfy" all adjustable so nothing wrong with a sniper style stock right?

 

OPTIC- i know that could be a whole other thread in itself so i will just hold off on that for now, get the rifle outta the way then cross that bridge but i am aware it will be a large fraction of the total build cost.

 

thanks in advance and im sure there are some very complex answers and would love to know what you know because right now i dont know much about it, also im sure i left out some important questions that i need to ask myself before a build that im not even aware are options

I have had two. A Remy 700P in .308 that was custom built. Loved it. Then sold it.

 

Now I am almost finished a custom built AR in .223 and love it. Do your research and buy quality parts.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=326995213#PIC

 

heres a lil bit of what i want, cant afford the AIC stock but something well adjustable so i can shape it to me as i am smaller.. petite one might say lmao

Very nice.

I have had two. A Remy 700P in .308 that was custom built. Loved it. Then sold it.

 

Now I am almost finished a custom built AR in .223 and love it. Do your research and buy quality parts.

 

what is the barest 700 that you know of, i was thinking about buying the one with the cheapest of stocks but best of barrels and action... do they make that as intended to be modified or am i thinking that up in my head lol

If you go with 223 it will get you out to 600 yards and be much cheaper to shoot. Look for a 700 P, or 5r.

Take a look at this...

 

http://savagearms.com/firearms/finder/

hey guys i am wanting to build my first precision rifle and really dont know much about the subject. i do know i shot at 300 yards (i know it aint much) and i loved it!!!

 

i would like to know some does and dont's..

 

WHAT I WANT FROM IT- i want a long range rifle 300yrds min that i may have the option of expanding onto 600+ as my skill progresses, will not be used for hunting.

 

CALIBER- im thinking 308, you want to stay away from designed hunting rounds i assume

 

RIFLE- i am thinking a 700 possibly a savage 111 variant (i think, not the BA)

 

STOCK- yes i may be wrong in doing this but i want it to feel really "comfy" all adjustable so nothing wrong with a sniper style stock right?

 

OPTIC- i know that could be a whole other thread in itself so i will just hold off on that for now, get the rifle outta the way then cross that bridge but i am aware it will be a large fraction of the total build cost.

 

thanks in advance and im sure there are some very complex answers and would love to know what you know because right now i dont know much about it, also im sure i left out some important questions that i need to ask myself before a build that im not even aware are options

 

Depends how much you want to spend. I have a 700P that I just put into a McCree Stock and it's great.

 

When I was looking at getting my 700, I didn't want to spend the money for the "Police" model and was told to buy the SPS Varmint, that it had the same action and barrel as the 700P, but less money due to the stock. If you were planning on changing the stock and wanted a 700, I would suggest looking into this.

Depends how much you want to spend. I have a 700P that I just put into a McCree Stock and it's great.

 

When I was looking at getting my 700, I didn't want to spend the money for the "Police" model and was told to buy the SPS Varmint, that it had the same action and barrel as the 700P, but less money due to the stock. If you were planning on changing the stock and wanted a 700, I would suggest looking into this.

 

wow very very good to know! i was deff going to change out the stock! really awesome you told me that!

 

i am torn between .223 & 308, any other calibers other than 338 and 300WM im over looking?

 

i know everyone tries to stream line their calibers but i actually try to diversify so i am not dependent on one cartridge if anything bad like a zombie apocalypse happened..

Take a look at this...

 

http://savagearms.com/firearms/finder/

 

very very cool! their website was always a lil tricky for me thanks a lot!!!

The 700 police has a higher rate of twist than the varmint. They can stabilize a higher grain bullet and are more accurate. To my understanding.

They varmint and the police ate not the same.

 

The police has a 1:12 twist rate and is more accurate as said above. The finish on the police is a better gun IMO.

 

 

The 700 police has a higher rate of twist than the varmint. They can stabilize a higher grain bullet and are more accurate. To my understanding.

They varmint and the police ate not the same.

 

The police has a 1:12 twist rate and is more accurate as said above. The finish on the police is a better gun IMO.

 

Ok, I guess I was misinformed about the barrel and action being the same. Sorry for the bad info. Glad I got the "P" instead.

 

Good luck OP.

i believe he is kinda correct..

 

not the varmint but the sps tactical....

 

the sps tactical and the 700p are the same rifle as on twist and bolt except that the 700p is in a better stock and bedded in aluminum.

atleast thats what i have been reading on other forums, cant confirm myself but i think he was onto something there just didnt get it out right!

but like bryan said the finish is of lesser quality, technically though there is no difference in twist rate or bolt they are identical from everything i read...

 

barrel length is different on this model though

 

http://www.remington.com/products/firearms/centerfire/model-700/model-700-sps-tactical.aspx?panel=1#data

Here is the info on the 700p

http://www.remingtonle.com/rifles/700p.htm

 

Here is the info on the 700p

http://www.remington...rifles/700p.htm

 

yea i looked at it all the twist rate is the same as with the bolt and barrel, on the spa tactical it uses a 20" barrel vs a 26" on the 700p

 

on the remington 700 forum there are about a gagillion posts covering this, they are the same rifle except for the finish and stock

the barrel, bolt and twist are all the same...

 

the stock is bedded in aluminum on the 700p which makes it more accurate outta the box but when modifided the sps tactical and 700p are the same, it then comes down to matter of stock preference then and of corse the 700p will have a nicer finish

The parkerized finish on the 700p is what got me. That and the fact that I had I idea how I wanted to modify it. That being said, I decide to trying out and liked the gun as it was. I was happy with my purchase.

 

The gun shoots like a Caddy drives.

The parkerized finish on the 700p is what got me. That and the fact that I had I idea how I wanted to modify it. That being said, I decide to trying out and liked the gun as it was. I was happy with my purchase.

 

The gun shoots like a Caddy drives.

 

the gun shoots like a caddy drives i like it lol

 

yea the finish is suppose to be of a much higher quality

Take a trip up to King Shooters Supply in King of Prussia. They have a Rem 700 5r .308 24" barrel 1-10 (or 11.25, I can't remember) twist. Cycle the action and I garuntee you won't leave without it. With the faster twist rate you can play with the heavier 175 SMK rounds and push the longer/lighter 155 Lapua Scenars out to 1000+ yards.

The Rabbit hole is deep in this catagory!

With all this talk of the 700s being a good platform for modifying, how many of you buy them only for the receiver and dump the barrel they came with for a higher quality barrel. Ie., a match stainless bull barrel? I've been considering a 700 myself for the baseline to a custom build. Based on all the available modifications and parts out there, and if you are so lucky to have no limit to budget, seems like the only remaining parts left from the original is the received and bolt.

 

I don't want a shoulder relocator and just want a good caliber for precision long-range use. My personal favorite is the M24A1 with the H-S Precision stock. Simple. Probably considering 308 as well.

Its a good platform of easing in to it because you can modify if you go. But if you are going full bore into it, its not my recomendation. Why pay for labor redoing an action instead of getting a nice custom action to begin with? In my opinion the custom action rifle built by a reputable smith will hold its value far better than a remy with a bunch of bolt ons.

Hmmmm, so building out off a Black-Friday special may not be a good idea then. Sadly, I'm on a budget so saving all my pennies for the in-house custom will be far down the line. Building my way up to it will likely be my route as probably the intent from the OP as well. Finish wise, I'm not worried about. It's the fit and quality that I'm concerned about.

 

If I do take the route of building up to the custom level, would it be better to find the cheapest 700 knowing eventually nothing will be left after the build is complete or get the mid-range 700 as the starting base.

Its very hard to know where your going to end up in this so its equally hard to advise. BUT picking up something like an older Remy LTR in 308 is a safe bet. Leave it stock until you outshoot the rifle and then sell it off to fund the start of a custom build. You will loose very little money if any.

Not trying to jack this post, but thanks for the info Shane45.

Take a trip up to King Shooters Supply in King of Prussia. They have a Rem 700 5r .308 24" barrel 1-10 (or 11.25, I can't remember) twist. Cycle the action and I garuntee you won't leave without it. With the faster twist rate you can play with the heavier 175 SMK rounds and push the longer/lighter 155 Lapua Scenars out to 1000+ yards.

 

i will have to pay them a visit just to fondle their goods!

 

ughhh that didnt come out right did it lol

i think im gonna go with a 700 spa tactical in 308...

 

wanna find a used one so if anyone sees one lemme know

I throw a wrench in your works...

 

Take a look at the 7mm-08 ballistics....it's a 308 necked down to 284.

 

<------That's what I have in my avatar....a 700 Mountain SS.

 

 

 

I just started bedding it in my new Boyd's stock....still have to clean it up and do the bottom metal.

 

 

I've been considering other calibers as well. 260 or 284. They seem to have good ballistics and have a more flat line trajectory than the 308. I think those 2 calibers are popular in F Class competitions. My only concern is I haven't stepped in the realm of reloading yet so I'll need to deal with more common calibers such as the 308. I've been wanting an M1A as well so consolidating calibers is a plus.

 

At the moment, I'm trying to build a WOA Match AR with a 26" stainless barrel. This will fill the niche out to 600yds. The 700 will supplement the remaining distance I want to achieve.