I really wouldn't believe a word security says.

 

N.J.S.A. 19:45-1.13 Firearms; possession within casino or casino simulcasting

facility

(a) No person, including the security department members, shall possess

or be permitted to possess any pistol or firearm within a casino or casino

simulcasting facility without the express written approval of the Commission

provided that employees and agents of the Division may possess such pistols or

firearms at the discretion of the director of the Division.

Ok, so I'm sitting at the gate waiting to board..... But yesterday when we got to the casino curbside, the bellhop loaded my gun case and luggage on the cart. Then I proceeded to tell him I would need that long package to check it with security, so he gave it to meand we walked into the lobby to check in, me and my gf and me carrying a 50+" desert tan gun case... We checked in and got our room keys, and I told the lady I need to check a "bag" with security... She said I could check it with baggage claim or security. So walked to baggage claim, and they didn't ask what was in it.. They said that I should check it in at security... So we then walked thru, me, my gf, and me carrying obviously a gun case, the casino floor trying to find security.... At that point I was nervous carrying it all around with us.. But me being cautious of those around me, not one passing person looked or pointed or asked!! So at that point we decided lets just goto the room, so we walked up to not one but TWO security guards to ask them what tower our room was at. They kindly pointed us in the right direction, not once asking about the tan gun case... So we got on elevator and into our room!! So the gun case stayed in the room with me after walking it right into the casino... The bellhop then came this morning to take our bags down so we could check out and gotta cab, never asking at all.... The only one to ask was the bellhop guy who loaded the luggage into the taxi cab!! He said: "that's a nice case. What's in it?". "golf clubs." I replied with a serious, believable expression... Lol!!!!!

^^ Winning

Hell Yeah!!!!!!

The only one to ask was the bellhop guy who loaded the luggage into the taxi cab!! He said: "that's a nice case. What's in it?". "golf clubs." I replied with a serious, believable expression... Lol!!!!!

 

It's my 556 iron..

It's my 5---5----ah---6 iron..

 

Sorry...I stutter when talking about golf clubs...

Sorry...I stutter when talking about golf clubs...

 

My clubs are measured in the metrics system..

Not sure I'd post on the Internet about breaking a nj gun related law if it was me.

 

 

It is advised not to.

 

What is advised not to?

Checking in an off-duty to security.

It's a 7.62 iron lmao!!!! I'm in fl now, gonna try to shoot boars tomorrow on my gf's farm..... I'm not worried now

Unless you consider the hotel room a temporary residence than I believe you would be in illegal possession of a firearm under NJ law. There is no exemption for hotel stays. I believe a man was arrested at Newark airport because he stayed overnight at the airport Marriott with his guns, because he missed his connecting flight. He was from out of state and spent a number of days in jail.

If he has a FPID then it was only illegal because he was in a casino. The FPID allows you to carry elsewhere

Unless you consider the hotel room a temporary residence than I believe you would be in illegal possession of a firearm under NJ law. There is no exemption for hotel stays. I believe a man was arrested at Newark airport because he stayed overnight at the airport Marriott with his guns, because he missed his connecting flight. He was from out of state and spent a number of days in jail.

 

That was for a HANDGUN. This is a LONG gun, which is legal if you have your FID.

Can you please show me the NJ law makes a distinction between possesing or carrying a long gun versus a handgun. I believe you are incorrect.

An FID is only good for purchasing firearms not carrying them.

Can you please show me the NJ law makes a distinction between possesing or carrying a long gun and a handgun. I believe you are incorrect.

An FID is only good for purchasing firearms not carrying them.

 

Perhaps there is confusion between transportation and "carrying".

A NJ FID removes the restrictions for long arms that always apply to handguns. You may only transport a handgun between your home, the range, your place of business (if you own it). The same restrictions apply for long arms without a FID.

If you do possess a FID, it eliminates the restrictions on long arms. It does not for handguns.

I'm sorry but I only see the term "firearm" when the law refers to transportation. Are you saying that I may transport my long gun anywhere in NJ so long as I have an FID? Please SHOW me this because I can't find it. I think you are wrong.

 

2C:39-6 Exemptions.

 

e.Nothing in subsections b., c. and d. of N.J.S.2C:39-5 shall be construed to prevent a person keeping or carrying about his place of business, residence, premises or other land owned or possessed by him, any firearm, or from carrying the same, in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section, from any place of purchase to his residence or place of business, between his dwelling and his place of business, between one place of business or residence and another when moving, or between his dwelling or place of business and place where such firearms are repaired, for the purpose of repair. For the purposes of this section, a place of business shall be deemed to be a fixed location.

 

f.Nothing in subsections b., c. and d. of N.J.S.2C:39-5 shall be construed to prevent:

 

(1)A member of any rifle or pistol club organized in accordance with the rules prescribed by the National Board for the Promotion of Rifle Practice, in going to or from a place of target practice, carrying such firearms as are necessary for said target practice, provided that the club has filed a copy of its charter with the superintendent and annually submits a list of its members to the superintendent and provided further that the firearms are carried in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section;

 

(2)A person carrying a firearm or knife in the woods or fields or upon the waters of this State for the purpose of hunting, target practice or fishing, provided that the firearm or knife is legal and appropriate for hunting or fishing purposes in this State and he has in his possession a valid hunting license, or, with respect to fresh water fishing, a valid fishing license;

 

(3)A person transporting any firearm or knife while traveling:

 

(a)Directly to or from any place for the purpose of hunting or fishing, provided the person has in his possession a valid hunting or fishing license; or

 

( b )Directly to or from any target range, or other authorized place for the purpose of practice, match, target, trap or skeet shooting exhibitions, provided in all cases that during the course of the travel all firearms are carried in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section and the person has complied with all the provisions and requirements of Title 23 of the Revised Statutes and any amendments thereto and all rules and regulations promulgated thereunder; or

 

( c )In the case of a firearm, directly to or from any exhibition or display of firearms which is sponsored by any law enforcement agency, any rifle or pistol club, or any firearms collectors club, for the purpose of displaying the firearms to the public or to the members of the organization or club, provided, however, that not less than 30 days prior to the exhibition or display, notice of the exhibition or display shall be given to the Superintendent of the State Police by the sponsoring organization or club, and the sponsor has complied with such reasonable safety regulations as the superintendent may promulgate. Any firearms transported pursuant to this section shall be transported in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section;

 

(4)A person from keeping or carrying about a private or commercial aircraft or any boat, or from transporting to or from such vessel for the purpose of installation or repair a visual distress signaling device approved by the United States Coast Guard.

 

g.All weapons being transported under paragraph (2) of subsection b., subsection e., or paragraph (1) or (3) of subsection f. of this section shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported, and in the course of travel shall include only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances.

 

2c:39-5c

 

1.Any person who knowingly has in his possession any rifle or shotgun without first having obtained a firearms purchasers is blah blah is guilty of a crime of the third degree.

 

2. Unless otherwise permitted by law, any person who knowingly has in his possession any loaded rifle or shotgun in guilty of a crime of the third degree.

 

 

In 2c:39-6 it lists exemptions where you can actually use and load the rifle or shotgun. The range. Your home. Hunting. Etc.

 

Duplicate

So to be clear ,you are saying it is perfectly legal for someone to bring an unloaded rifle into a hotel in NJ so long as the person has an FID?

Checking in an off-duty to security.

 

Why not? I know a lot of guys who do it. I can't see any reason not to if its going in a safe deposit box. I'm not talking about giving it to them so they can stick it in their belt.

I'm not a lawyer but I believe it's 100% legal. I'd even say its legal to go just about anywhere with one.

Just because people do it doesn't make it legal! AGAIN WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT HAVING AN FID ALLOWS YOU TO POSSES YOUR LONG GUNS ANYWHERE EXCEPT THE LOCATIONS LISTED IN 2c:39-6. In fact it doesn't mention FID's at all in that section and in the other section you refer to it only says its illegal to posses a long gun without one, not that you may bring where you want so long as you have an FID.

Carrying

 

It is unlawful to knowingly have in your possession a:

1. Handgun, including any antique handgun, without first obtaining a Permit to Carry. A Permit to Carry is required, and no differentiation is made between carrying openly or concealed.
   
2. Rifle or shotgun without first obtaining a FID card.
   

http://cd.textfiles.com/group42/WEAPONS/LAWS/NJ.HTM

Just because people do it doesn't make it legal! AGAIN WHERE DOES IT SAY THAT HAVING AN FID ALLOWS YOU TO POSSES YOUR LONG GUNS ANYWHERE EXCEPT THE LOCATIONS LISTED IN 2c:39-6. In fact it doesn't mention FID's at all in that section and in the other section you refer to it only says its illegal to posses a long gun without one, not that you may bring where you want so long as you have an FID.

 

.6 is exemptions for .5. .5 is the law you are breaking. Illegal possession of a weapon. If you are not breaking the law as described in .5, there is no need to even look at .6

So by your interpretation of the law I may legally carry an unloaded long gun in NJ on my person anywhere I wish in NJ. provided I have an FID?

It's not Carry - it's TRANSPORT. but yes.... Outside of "Gun free" zones

 

As in - I can keep my rifle in my trunk while I go to dunkin donuts before going to the range.

Why not carry?

So by your interpretation of the law I may legally carry an unloaded long gun in NJ on my person anywhere I wish in NJ. provided I have an FID?

 

Not in schools as listed in 2c:39-5e

Not in the post office or federal buildings.

Not in the airport

Possibly not in other places.

But generally yes

 

I actually believe the older FPID said carry on the back of them but mine doesn't. Maybe someone can confirm that or post a picture

 

Do you interperate the law differently?

Well I guess the answer is you may carry an unloaded long gun on your person provided you have a valid FID and you do not enter a " gun free zone ".