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My gripe with my M&P 9 full size

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So I have to admit, about two years ago I made my first handgun purchase and I chose the M&P 9 full size. Now two years later I am pretty much fed up that I still cant find 15 round mags anywhere! What is the point of a full size 9mm that you can only get 10 round magazines for?!? Thank you great state of NJ, oh well I just wanted to get that off of my chest. I guess Im in the market for a full size 9 again ... :roulette:

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Oh and if anyone can point me towards 15 rd mags you would be making my day.

 

Give it time, you will find them. Call smith wesson?

 

You know .. I haven't tried that honestly. Never thought of it because I figured they would post it on their site if they had them available, or at the very least word would have made it out to the forums.

Ammo is too expensive to keep 15 round mags full for range shooting. I would rather have three 10 rounders than two 15 rounders and take my time and enjoy shooting. But that is just my preference and I believe I am seriously outnumbered in this conversation.

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Ammo is too expensive to keep 15 round mags full for range shooting. I would rather have three 10 rounders than two 15 rounders and take my time and enjoy shooting. But that is just my preference and I believe I am seriously outnumbered in this conversation.

Sludog,

I doubt your really going to save a whole lot of time at the range because your have to drop and swap an extra mag, at least not in my experience. But what about as a bedside or HD option? I know I would much rather have 15 round mags God forbid there was more than one intruder, what benefit does a full size have when it the compact has a larger capacity?

Sludog,

I doubt your really going to save a whole lot of time at the range because your have to drop and swap an extra mag, at least not in my experience. But what about as a bedside or HD option? I know I would much rather have 15 round mags God forbid there was more than one intruder, what benefit does a full size have when it the compact has a larger capacity?

Like I said my preference is smaller mags while range shooting. Not looking to save time but to spend more time. I like to regroup after each magazine, change my grip and stance, change my target area. If you are waiting for a lane and are watching me shoot then you will probably be very annoyed because I am so slow shooting.

 

As far as an HD option, I would not use a 9mm to protect against intruders. I personally will use a 45 acp as my home defense gun because I want the most stopping power. This brings up the debate of "more bullets vs. stopping power" and everyone has there own opinion and views about this subject but that's a whole another topic.

Greetings. Although trying to find anything right now is next to impossible, I purchased a few M&P9 15rnd mags from http://www.gandrtactical.com. I can't recommend them enough. Excellent CS and very very good pricing. I paid $27/each, while S&W wanted $42/each. These are pre CT shooting prices and have no idea what the current prices are. Good luck!

Yeah, I had gotten 2 15's from G&R last year for mine. Your only complaint is that?? Even if 5 rounders were only available, I would'nt complain about my M&P9 FS. I love it!

Yea, I got a few last year as well from G&R.. but even up until that point I checked their site OFTEN for 3 months straight. You'd be hard pressed to find them in todays climate without persistence, keeping those sites that carry them bookmarked for daily checking, and patience.

 

15 rnd M&P9 mags were a hot commodity long before the run on guns early this year.

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I just wish that S&W would do us all a favor over here in the peoples republic of NJ and make these a little easier to obtain. And boomstick, Im not complaining about any other aspect of the gun but I do feel slightly cheated that I can get higher round magazines for the compact model than I can for my full size, but then again I guess I should be griping at NJ not S&W.

I just wish that S&W would do us all a favor over here in the peoples republic of NJ and make these a little easier to obtain. And boomstick, Im not complaining about any other aspect of the gun but I do feel slightly cheated that I can get higher round magazines for the compact model than I can for my full size, but then again I guess I should be griping at NJ not S&W.

 

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Like I said my preference is smaller mags while range shooting. Not looking to save time but to spend more time. I like to regroup after each magazine, change my grip and stance, change my target area. If you are waiting for a lane and are watching me shoot then you will probably be very annoyed because I am so slow shooting.

 

As far as an HD option, I would not use a 9mm to protect against intruders. I personally will use a 45 acp as my home defense gun because I want the most stopping power. This brings up the debate of "more bullets vs. stopping power" and everyone has there own opinion and views about this subject but that's a whole another topic.

 

 

Edited to note that when I use the word "you" I do not mean the poster but "you" in the general sense. It just sounds better than using the word "one" :) I know that my views on caliber and round count are not popular but they are based on real experience and not the opinion of someone who never fired a shot in anger. Feel free to disagree or ignore me. :)

 

I probably disagree with both having shot people with handgun and rifle. My feeling is that most will stop what they are doing when shot with anything. Those drug crazed bad guys who will absorb a lot of rounds will not care what those rounds are, will reach you before they bleed out and a 9mm and .45 can take out a spine or brain equally well. The difference in size is a fraction of a inch and really will not matter in so many cases as not to worry about it. Handguns equally suck as man stoppers unless you hit the brain or spinal cord which rarely happens in real life no matter how many times you can do it on a paper target at the range. So if you think you will miss a lot or that your home will be invaded by a large gang then go for quantity of ammo. If you feel you will only be dealing with one or two people, the most likely situation, then a large caliber gives you a tiny bit of extra margin of error. Just find that picture of ballistic gel with all the calibers from .380 to .45 in it and you will see that they all penetrate about the same and forget about that temporary stretch cavity thing as that is unproven but sounds good enough to attract lots of believers. Watch a surgery and see how much you can stretch your insides without causing any damage to see what I mean.

 

It is all about shot placement and the fact that the overwhelming great majority of people, good and bad, do not want to be shot with anything and all studies show that in over 90% of cases for home defense, no shots are fired and if they are, caliber and quantity of ammo did not seem to play a part. My LEO friends keep telling me that they used to come across a lot of shootings and they were with .22 and .25 calibers and they certainly stopped the person from doing whatever it was that he was doing that got him shot. Sure there are exceptions but I like to plan for the likely that is possible and not the unlikely just because it is possible. If I was worried about unlikely possibilities I would wear a helmet to protect me against falling meteorites and do all sorts of other things to protect me from harm and death that is unlikely to happen. For some reason when it comes to guns as the solution, no problem is small enough to address. :)

 

Anyway I use a 9mm with +P ammo, a .45 and a .357 with .38 +P and know that shot placement will count and that I may have to shoot more than once because it is a handgun. Let's not forget that the studies done on one stop shots only included shootings where there were one shot fired and ignored all the other shootings that had a lot more rounds fired. For all we know, the number of one stop shot shooting could be only 10% of all shootings so the studies so many hang their hat on are flawed and by now discredited by modern research. As I have witnessed enemy soldiers drop when shot anywhere once, keep coming with multiple shots, be stopped with a .38 or .45 and not stopped by a M-16. My only civilian shooting saw a large man stopped by a .22lr to the belly. He never stopped to ask what caliber just made a hole in him causing him a lot of pain nor did he get angry and go after the guy that shot him. He went down to his knees immediately. So my experience has shown me that a 9mm and above will perform just fine with very little difference between them and any bullet has the great potential to stop a person. I also learned to keep shooting until the threat is stopped even if you use a .45. You rarely will be able to get off more than a few shots before the threat is stopped or he is on top of you. Remember that it only takes 3 seconds for someone to reach you from 7 yards away and that is room sized distances in my house. However many are comforted by large bullets and lots of rounds and that is worth something too. I have a lot of people I teach that just want to feel safe and carry guns designed for comfort, with no round in the chamber and without a holster in a spot that would take them 10 seconds to bring into play. The presence of a gun makes them less afraid and that is all they really are looking for. End of sermon. :)

Opps! My bad... Meh... Pin the buggers! ;)

 

 

Those are 17 rounders, not 15...

 

 

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Typos courtesy Apple...

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Shoot ... I would be willing to have a few permanently pinned 17 rounders if need be, anyone want to help me out with that?

I wasn't happy with G&R Tacticals customer service. I ordered them directly from S&W, part number 39498. They weren't cheap, but S&W had em in stock.

delta three is no good... I have mags on order from them for over 6 months and no replys to emails to cancel... their inventory does not reflect what site shows. CS is non existant

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