Hello Everyone,

I just saw this article on NJ.com and wanted to share it. Apparently the Iron Horse Rifle and Pistol Club is getting complaints due to the noise caused by target shooting. They are saying that some homes have been hit by bullets. I do not know about this range so I cannot say if its true or not but I thought it would be an interesting read. I was hoping that maybe there are members of this range here who could shed light on this issue. This club has also been here since the 1950's and I just hate to see even the remote possibility of a gun range closing we actually need more of them due to the attack on the 2nd ammendment.

 

http://www.nj.com/camden/index.ssf/2013/04/gloucester_township_shooting_r.html#incart_river

Typical bs they build houses around a pre-exisiting range, homebuyers want to shut down a business that has been there half a century because they didn't research the area before they bought a house.

There was an issue with this in West Windsor... Citizens Rifle and Pistol range.

 

someone bought a home.... bought a bullet and placed it in the backyard, called cops to say it came from the range.

 

This was also an issue in Delran IIRC.

We see this time and again in NJ..Developers building even more densely packed neighborhoods adjacent to working farms and residents complaining about the smell or near racetracks and bitching about the noise. I have no sympathy for anyone who do not investigate a town,neighborhood,it's issues with crime,noise,taxes before purchasing a house you'll be spending decades living in.

What I would love to know is who is the person who is incharge of "ok-ing" the zoning for this houses to be built so close to ranges. Then again any developer who fills up pockets gets things pushed along. SMH its a shame to see buisnesses have to deal with this kind of stuff after being there for so long.

They should make those shooters use some kind of muffler on their guns.

This is just like the idiots that build houses near an airport and then complain about the noises coming from the planes.

They should make those shooters use some kind of muffler on their guns.

 

:mail:

 

 

Pretty awesome idea to me....feed their own b/s back to them....make it a health/safety issue. We NEED silencers for the benefit of the community!

There was an issue with this in West Windsor... Citizens Rifle and Pistol range.

 

someone bought a home.... bought a bullet and placed it in the backyard, called cops to say it came from the range.

 

I was at the West Windsor public hearing when CRRC was being subjected to that nonsense. The homeowners had a few of their elementary school students make 'personal statements', detailing how they lived in fear, couldn't sleep, had nightmares, their grades were suffering, etc. Funny thing was, every time a student stumbled over a big word in their 'personal statement', they looked to the homeowner's attorney. It was obvious he had written the kids' 'personal statements'.

People do this with prisons too. Build a million dollar house next to a prison that has been there since the late 1800s and then want the prison closed they don't want that in their backyard.

I was at the West Windsor public hearing when CRRC was being subjected to that nonsense. The homeowners had a few of their elementary school students make 'personal statements', detailing how they lived in fear, couldn't sleep, had nightmares, their grades were suffering, etc. Funny thing was, every time a student stumbled over a big word in their 'personal statement', they looked to the homeowner's attorney. It was obvious he had written the kids' 'personal statements'.

 

Have to love the "for the children" arguments that have been popping up all over. It seems if you can pile enough exploited children up behind you while you speak, that is supposed to get you the sympathy votes for whatever BS you are pitching.

The solution is simply, pass another law. Make silencers legal in NJ for use at the range and at home - oh and don't forget to make it illegal everywhere else and you have to transport it in the trunk of your car :)

There was an issue with this in West Windsor... Citizens Rifle and Pistol range.

someone bought a home.... bought a bullet and placed it in the backyard, called cops to say it came from the range.

 

The stupidity of the antis is astounding....

This is just like that one time I moved to NJ and then started bitching about all the oppressive laws, bad drivers, and corruption.

This is just like the idiots that build houses near an airport and then complain about the noises coming from the planes.

 

Or the people who move up here then complain about black bears.

Having a "buffer zone" is very important for a range. Good range management dictates it, and when adjacent property alongside a range becomes available, instead of beotching about how much dues are, the members & trustees Cowboy-Up and attempt to buy the parcel(s). Doing so helps to eliminate this^^^^ situation! I KNOW this first hand......

I think Silencer has evil connotations.

 

A muffler or sound attenuator has a much more benign ring to it.

Having a "buffer zone" is very important for a range. Good range management dictates it, and when adjacent property alongside a range becomes available, instead of beotching about how much dues are, the members & trustees Cowboy-Up and attempt to buy the parcel(s). Doing so helps to eliminate this^^^^ situation! I KNOW this first hand......

 

Yep. That's what CJ recently did. Protect the range from an "unfriendly" purchasing the property.

My ex-wife was in the Housing Development business. She used to call these people "N.I.M.B.Y.'s"

 

Not In My Back Yard !!!!!

 

It is like when Western Monmouth County was being developed. And everybody was buying the houses like crazy. And Whoooooaaaaaa, What is that noise. The Englishtown Raceway..... HOW CAN THIS BE !!!! HOW CAN WE HAVE THIS NOISE !!!! Probably because it was there long before you moved in....

My ex-wife was in the Housing Development business. She used to call these people "N.I.M.B.Y.'s"

 

Not In My Back Yard !!!!!

 

It is like when Western Monmouth County was being developed. And everybody was buying the houses like crazy. And Whoooooaaaaaa, What is that noise. The Englishtown Raceway..... HOW CAN THIS BE !!!! HOW CAN WE HAVE THIS NOISE !!!! Probably because it was there long before you moved in....

 

Same at my local little league. Been there since the 70s, had lights since the early 90s, and last year a new neighbor started complaining about the lights and noise...

I'd love to live across the street from my range.

I'd love to live across the street from my range.

Yeah, me too. Id also love to live across the street from raceway park too. Combine the two and put it in another state and it would be absolutely perfect!

 

Ken

Yeah, me too. Id also love to live across the street from raceway park too. Combine the two and put it in another state and it would be absolutely perfect!

 

Ken

 

Wife grew up 1/4 mile from the intersection of pension and englishtown.. it was if the top fuel drags were like the sounds of the ocean going to bed at night.

Say what you want about CR, but they are surrounded by state forest so there's no development nearby.

I'd love to live across the street from my range.

 

I'd be broke and ammoless.

This is just like the idiots that build houses near an airport and then complain about the noises coming from the planes.

 

funny you should say that. when i was still flying out of KVAY, i had noticed a new small housing development going up. when rolling from 26, we fly a right hand pattern. first turn is at 500 agl, full throttle, still climbing. directly over top of the new development. i haven't been up in a few years, but i'm pretty sure that the people that moved into those homes are doing some serious whining about the constant airplanes now.

I'd love to live across the street from my range.

 

If you lived across the street from the range, could you walk your guns to the range or would you still have to put them in the car and drive 20 feet?

Had people in my town complain about the local football field and baseball fields. Complained about the lights, the crack of the bats, noise during games. Even got the town to bring in an agricultural specialist to verify that the football practices tore up the football field so we shouldn't get to use them (study backfired and he told them that this was normal and they would regenerate each year).

 

One guy even went house to house in our neighborhood looking for signatures and donations to start a lawsuit against the fields. Didn't last long when I told him how much I enjoyed the "sounds of youth"

funny you should say that. when i was still flying out of KVAY, i had noticed a new small housing development going up. when rolling from 26, we fly a right hand pattern. first turn is at 500 agl, full throttle, still climbing. directly over top of the new development. i haven't been up in a few years, but i'm pretty sure that the people that moved into those homes are doing some serious whining about the constant airplanes now.

 

I did my flight training out of KVAY, and even though we used a left pattern for 26 (helicopter) we would still get calls to the flight school about noise. One guy in particular was constantly calling, if God forbid someone extended their upwind.

I did my flight training out of KVAY, and even though we used a left pattern for 26 (helicopter) we would still get calls to the flight school about noise. One guy in particular was constantly calling, if God forbid someone extended their upwind.

 

yep.

 

you trained with helicopter flight services? who'd ya fly with? i used to know a couple of the instructors there........and of course dougie. me and a friend helped him pull a cylinder off of one of his copters when it burned a valve.