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4 year old shoots 6 year old, Toms River

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It's a terrible thing!..... But it's odd to me the school superintendent had a voice in the article...since it didn't happen at school it was 6-7 pm....main issue though who leaves a loaded firearm in reach of a 4 yo?. ... Much less that he could obtain and wander off with it....shitty parenting

Hopefully the 6 year old comes through without any permanent injuries. As far as the parent/parents of the 4 year old, WTF! How the hell can you leave a loaded firearm accessible to a kid.

sh*t, i dont have kids and even i know that you dont leave a loaded firearm anywhere that a child can get to..

Well, the parents will be finding out soon about NJ law and securing firearms around children. They apparently did not know about it before this. Having small children, especially boys, that get into everything, I'd like to hear why the rifle was unsecured.

WE DO NOT NEED THIS SH!T! IF they let the Eddie Eagle Program into more pre-schools, sh!t like this wouldn't happen! And a big Beotch-Slap to the parents responsible for leaving the gun laying around...JUST STUPID!

WE DO NOT NEED THIS SH!T! IF they let the Eddie Eagle Program into more pre-schools, sh!t like this wouldn't happen! And a big Beotch-Slap to the parents responsible for leaving the gun laying around...JUST STUPID!

 

We dont need the school to take on further responsibilities that the parents are grossly neglecting. The parents are solely at fault. Leaving a loaded firearm within access of anyone let alone a child is about as reckless as parenting can get.

We dont need the school to take on further responsibilities that the parents are grossly neglecting. The parents are solely at fault. Leaving a loaded firearm within access of anyone let alone a child is about as reckless as parenting can get.

+1.. people like this honestly shouldn't have children as they are obviously not responsible enough

I am assuming the school is involved because they will receive money from either the state or feds for the counseling.

 

Something wrong with this story, kind of late for a four year old to be up and outside ?

 

im betting one of the parents had a ND and their covering it up..

WE DO NOT NEED THIS SH!T! IF they let the Eddie Eagle Program into more pre-schools, sh!t like this wouldn't happen! And a big Beotch-Slap to the parents responsible for leaving the gun laying around...JUST STUPID!

 

You don't need Eddie Eagle for this (helps but not required). All you need is: semi-erect posture, one working synapse and a drop of common sense. Lacking any of the above, a few solid, well-aimed kicks to the ass should be enough.

 

This is complete common sense. What a bunch of morons.

As a parent of a 5,3,& 1 year old my heart goes out to all involved. I live in toms river but not in that area. I hope to god this kid pulls through. Times are a lot different now. My father had his .22 in his closet. (I now have it in my safe). He showed it to me once and told me not to touch it. I admit I opened the closet a lot when my parents weren't home but I never touched it. Just looked a lot. I think the fear of getting my butt kicked helped in not touching it. Firearms education is very important. As a lot of you do, I let my son watch when I clean my firearms. I talk to him the whole time about how dangerous they are. He knows when he is a bit older i will take him to the range. He also knows that if he sees a weapon anywhere he is to immediately leave that area and find an adult.

 

As far as kids being out that late, we were out with our kids until about 8 o'clock last night with the weather.

I was just reading this article saying to myself WTF. Parents today are just dumb. No common sense, I see it all the time. Parents let their kids run amuck the blame someone else when there's a problem. Some people shouldn't be allowed to have kids, let alone guns. YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID. Prayers out to the young child.

There is not enough details to make judgement on this unless I missed something. Who's gun was it? Was it legally owned? Where the family members officers, druggies, or what? Was the gun found in the home, or perhaps it was in the yard? Who was watching the children? There is just too much that is not included in the story.

So, apparently there WAS a law in place to prevent this....the child access prevention law.

 

Did a law prevent this from happening?

 

Yet, there are people still clamoring for stricter gun laws because of this.....when will the insanity end?

the parent should be sentenced severely and i hope the 6 year old makes a full recovery

Incredibly sad for both kids.

 

Read the comments if you really want your head to explode. Reactionary libetards will propose laws against anything. Sneezing causes colds, write laws.

 

And take advantage of any tragedy to grab power.

 

The North Carolina guy who had is daughter die in the dirt pit that he was digging was a felon and had guns confiscated as well.

 

Every opportunity to publicize a tragedy with a tie into gun ownership is taken with relish.

 

We are going to have a problem. Soon.

Hope the kid gets better. Prayers his way.

 

 

....i just heard on the radio that they are goign to have grief counselors at the school?????

What the heck for? This didt happen at the school.

 

His friends will find out about it. Sometimes it is easier for young children to speak about things to other people besides their parents

His friends will find out about it. Sometimes it is easier for young children to speak about things to other people besides their parents

 

I understand that but also i d think that the counselors are heavily anti gun and theynshape the conversation wit the kid based on their opinion.

I as pro gun as anyone you will meet. When it comes to young children I do not care the views of the counselor. The kids mental being is far more important to me.

There is a reason why safes are important and every gun comes with a lock. It's a shame and a hope both kids recover both Physically and mentally.

 

 

I understand that but also i d think that the counselors are heavily anti gun and theynshape the conversation wit the kid based on their opinion.

they focus grief counseling and support for the students. It has nothing to do with guns. This isn't anything new and they do it all the time when there is a loss of life in the classroom. It's IMO better then doing nothing.

It's a terrible thing that happened and 100% the parents fault for not following THE LAW of locking up the firearms with kids in the house.... But to roll in the "specialists" to the school which was not involved at the least is a blatent attempt to push the " our kids at school aren't safe see we need to ban guns".... Crap.... Not to mention the liberal mind f they'll get from the "counselor"... Giving them carte Blanche with my kids mind no thanks

As a parent of a 5,3,& 1 year old my heart goes out to all involved. I live in toms river but not in that area.

 

 

Maybe you can help me understand. I understand most all of Toms River is no firearm discharge area. I ask because I wonder why a .22 rifle would be loaded.

they focus grief counseling and support for the students. It has nothing to do with guns. This isn't anything new and they do it all the time when there is a loss of life in the classroom. It's IMO better then doing nothing.

 

Thanks for the clarification. I will try to learn more on the role of these counselors.

I as pro gun as anyone you will meet. When it comes to young children I do not care the views of the counselor. The kids mental being is far more important to me.

 

When I was in school we had the counselors in for a kid who committed suicide that was on my bus. He did so on school property. Lots of kids needed to talk about it, and they did, but not to the counselors. I know of exactly one person who did, why she did, and they were of ZERO help. At least they didn't make things worse. They are worse than substitute teachers (aome of them actually give a crap but are limited by the nature of the job), and possibly on par with public defenders. As a group, they aren't very good at what they do, which is why that's the format they conduct their profession in. Heck, maybe I'm being unfair. It's not like I met any head shrinker that was good for much of anything other than maybe being a bit better at pretending that your BS wasn't boring and unimportant to them than the next guy was or stating the totally obvious in case you missed it.

 

Maybe it has gotten better since the late 80s early 90s, but I doubt it.

We had "grief Counselors" assigned to our high school after a beloved teacher died on school property.

 

They were terrible at their jobs. Perhaps it was a function of the fact that we were teenagers, but I quickly soured on them and we banded together in groups and talked to each other. We devised our own memorial for him and we got through it.

 

How six year olds do that? I don't know.

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