California gun owners get screwed

 

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Looks like they are really putting the screws to gun owners in California. Some of the outrageous proposals include a sales tax of 5 cents each bullet (cartridge), guns must be locked even if owners are home, bans the online sales of ammo and creates an annual ammo purchase permit. Redefines handguns as short barreled shotguns thus making them illegal. Reading the forum there, looks like a whole bunch plan to move to Arizona if all this passes.

 

Unfortunately these have passed so far....

 

SB 374 Assault Weapons - passed 5-2

SB 47 Bullet Button - passed 5-2

SB 293 Smart Gun Tech - passed 5-2

SB 299 Lost or stolen - passed 5-2

SB 53 Ammunition: purchase permits - passed 5-2

SB 683 Safety Certificate - passed 5-2

SB 567 Illegal Shotgun - passed 5-2

SB 108 Residential Storage - passed 5-2

SB 585 Cow Palace Gun Show Ban- passed 5-2

SB 396 Mega-Magazines - passed 5-2

SB 755 Prohibited Gun Owners - passed 5-2

 

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Requires NEW “assault weapon” registration, requires registration of ALL those semi-auto rifles that are currently possessed to retain legal possession in the future, and subjects these firearms to all other “assault weapons” restrictions.

 

Requires persons to buy an annual ammunition purchase permit, requires the registration and thumbprint of the purchaser for each ammunition purchase, and bans online and mail order sales of ammunition to Californians.

 

Requires mandatory locked storage of firearms within a locked house regardless of whether anyone is present.

 

Expands the definition of “assault weapons” to BAN the future sale of VIRTUALLY ALL semi-auto rifles (including rimfire cartridges) that accept a detachable magazine,

 

Changes the technical definition of a shotgun, which would turn all handguns into short-barrel shotguns that are illegal to own.

That state has been sold out along time ago...

Hope it floats away!

Recently I was offered a job by a large tech company in California (social media). I turned it down.

 

As much as it would be awesome to work for them, I simply cannot stomach living in California. Yes, it's a pretty state but it's like living in a country club prison.

 

About the only time I go there is to visit my brother at Camp Pendleton.

Gotdamn, I guess the NY safe act looks like nothing compared to that proposal (yes it's still Bullship). WTF

Wow... as much as I hate relocating, and if I lived in Kali, I would be gone in a heartbeat.

guns must be locked even if owners are home,

 

Wasn't that found to be unconstitutional already? I recall that being part of the Heller decision.

 

I can't imagine most of those proposals passing constitutional muster.

Wow, what an oppressive set of anti-gun laws.

 

Time for some entrepreneurs to open ammo stores at the Nevada/Arizona/California borders.

Wasn't that found to be unconstitutional already? I recall that being part of the Heller decision.

 

I can't imagine most of those proposals passing constitutional muster.

 

What difference does it make, there is no penalty for these scumbags to make illegal laws. 5 years down the road IF the USSC decides to hear it and it gets overturned they just pull a slight modification and it starts all over again.

Good news / Bad news

 

Good News: All those bills with the "5-2" after them are just those that were released from committee. More good news: It isn't NJ

 

Bad News: Both houses of CA legislature are democratic controlled - these bills, ridiculous as they are, will have virtually no impediment to becoming law. If I were a gunowner living in CA, I wouldn't wait - I'd get out now.

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

I was in SF a couple of months ago, and I had hair crawling on the back of my neck. On the one hand it's charming, blah, blah. On the other hand, I felt the "force" of Darth Feinstein. And I knew that half of the people there, if they knew who I was, would want me strung up from a light pole.

 

The courts are going to be busy.

Did you see people openly smoking weed in the streets? Yes, it's like that there.

Best of luck, Cali, as you transition into a liberal utopia. Just don't come suckling on our teat when the bank finally breaks out there.

Oh they will. They claim that they send a lot of Federal tax dollars to us... yet they are the state with the highest number of welfare recipients.

Ever see the movie "Escape from LA"? It is time to start building the fence.

I lived in Cali for a bit. 5 yrs was all I could stomach between the housing costs and the fake people. Oddly enough, I got my first 10/22 there - just walked into a Walmart with my DL, waited a few days, and picked it up...obviously things have changed since then.

1. How can you screw someone that is already raped?

2. 5 cents per bullet is much cheaper than what some stores add to the price of the bullets they buy and resell.

 

 

Requires mandatory locked storage of firearms within a locked house regardless of whether anyone is present.

 

 

Changes the technical definition of a shotgun, which would turn all handguns into short-barrel shotguns that are illegal to own.

 

SB 567 seems to make any firearm now a shotgun. Pistol, rifle, shotgun, they are all shotguns. If California has in their own laws restrictions that mirror federal law (like barrel length and OAL), then that would make all pistols and all rifles with barrels less than 18" illegal. If they don't, I'm not quite sure what it changes.

 

The storage bill, unless I'm reading it wrong, does not require firearms to be locked when you are home. It says they must be if you are "outside that residence", which pretty much means your property.

And it will do nothing to deter crime, as they will find out soon enough....

California gun owners get screwed

 

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Looks like they are really putting the screws to gun owners in California. Some of the outrageous proposals include a sales tax of 5 cents each bullet (cartridge), guns must be locked even if owners are home, bans the online sales of ammo and creates an annual ammo purchase permit. Redefines handguns as short barreled shotguns thus making them illegal. Reading the forum there, looks like a whole bunch plan to move to Arizona if all this passes.

 

Unfortunately these have passed so far....

 

SB 374 Assault Weapons - passed 5-2

SB 47 Bullet Button - passed 5-2

SB 293 Smart Gun Tech - passed 5-2

SB 299 Lost or stolen - passed 5-2

SB 53 Ammunition: purchase permits - passed 5-2

SB 683 Safety Certificate - passed 5-2

SB 567 Illegal Shotgun - passed 5-2

SB 108 Residential Storage - passed 5-2

SB 585 Cow Palace Gun Show Ban- passed 5-2

SB 396 Mega-Magazines - passed 5-2

SB 755 Prohibited Gun Owners - passed 5-2

 

More details

 

Requires NEW “assault weapon” registration, requires registration of ALL those semi-auto rifles that are currently possessed to retain legal possession in the future, and subjects these firearms to all other “assault weapons” restrictions.

 

Requires persons to buy an annual ammunition purchase permit, requires the registration and thumbprint of the purchaser for each ammunition purchase, and bans online and mail order sales of ammunition to Californians.

 

Requires mandatory locked storage of firearms within a locked house regardless of whether anyone is present.

 

Expands the definition of “assault weapons” to BAN the future sale of VIRTUALLY ALL semi-auto rifles (including rimfire cartridges) that accept a detachable magazine,

 

Changes the technical definition of a shotgun, which would turn all handguns into short-barrel shotguns that are illegal to own.

 

most of that will get shot down on challenge. For instance, the SC already ruled you don't have to keep your guns locked in your home. That is not to say you are not required to keep the out of the reach of children.