The shorter rifles. The mags look tinier. Doesn't look like 223 ammo. What kind of rifles are those?

 

To those who have been watching TV

 

Could be using NY legal mags.

Post a pic if you can. Could be 9mm uppers.

Ones I saw looked like m4's with acogs.

I glanced at a pic this morning could of been a HK G36

Looked like thIs HK UMP

 

Yes the HK. What kind of ammo that use?

 

They come in 9mm, .40 and .45. Maybe more but I know of those 3

hmmm... so that's not so much a "rifle" per se then... it seemed like i saw a lot of them (besides a typical AR).. Do spec ops guys like those for close quarters? pros/cons?

hmmm... so that's not so much a "rifle" per se then... it seemed like i saw a lot of them (besides a typical AR).. Do spec ops guys like those for close quarters? pros/cons?

 

and are those Jersey legal?

and are those Jersey legal?

There was a jersey legal one in 45acp.

Shot them ages ago at the old Paterson Range during an open house.

Very cool, but pricey.

and are those Jersey legal?

 

NJ Legal? If it is a: MP5A3

 

Probably not even close.

 

Possible

1. Colapsable Stock

2. Selective fire (single, burst, or full auto)

3. Possible less than legal barrell length.

 

You can get a legal version, or a .22LR clone. All it takes is money.

 

Edit

NJ Legal? If it is a: MP5A3

 

Probably not even close.

 

Possible

1. Colapsable Stock

2. Selective fire (single, burst, or full auto)

3. Possible less than legal barrell length.

 

You can get a legal version, or a .22LR clone. All it takes is money.

 

Well of course i meant if NJ neutered.. what i meant was are they manufactured specifically for LEO.. or are they banned by name.. etc etc.. things like that.. i just don't hear that type of weapon mentioned much..

Gsg 522. Not exactly the same but similar in 22lr

think i found a pic.. can't say if its exact.. .. the one on the left..

 

http://www.google.co...ml%3B1024%3B611

 

no.. it wasnt the GSG 522.. i know what that one looks like..

I was just talking about a nj legal option

They come in 9mm, .40 and .45. Maybe more but I know of those 3

 

Also 10mm.

 

 

Also 10mm.

 

I bet that thing would be a blast to shoot

i see no pros to something like that... I would much rather have a SBR AR... as there is less chance of over penetrating... sub guns were all the rage for interior and short urban situations (like swat).. but like I said.. an AR is better IMO..

Maybe b/c it's designed around the pistol caliber. I know you can run a 9mm ar, but it wasn't originally designed that way. These were specifically engineered as close quarter pistol cal weapons

Oop scratch that - sorry - only 9x19, .40 S&W and .45ACP. Not 10mm. I was thinking of the MP5.

The standard model in the US is .45 and 9mm for Europe and elsewhere.

I see mostly M4s.

 

If you are talking about these rifles (the two slung on the shooters facing the camera):

 

Those are Sig 556 rifles like this one:

 

Probably the 556 SWAT SBR (10" barrel) version:

 

With lights, sights, etc...

Sweet SBR, we can only dream. But whats up with the ACU's (worst cam p ever)

I'd love a mp5/10 but reloading for it must suck! I'm starting to think that may give a 10" ar sbr a run for its money.

 

We're you referring to the rifle the DSS Agent is carrying?

 

If so that is a Colt 9mm Subgun. If I remember correctly is was developed at the request of the Marine Corps FAST teams.

 

The standard Colt Model 635 has a 10.5" barrel, but there is also a Model 633 has a 7" barrel and a different front sight setup (this variation was built to fulfill a request by the DEA).

 

We had them for a little while, but they were very unreliable with anything but Mil-spec 9mm hardball ammo.

I love that single point sling!

I love that single point sling!

 

Yeah, that's pretty bad

 

But sometimes, you have to dance with who ya brung.

That is more like a lanyard...