I saw NJpilot's safe and it is very very nice.... if I was not hoping to move in the next few months, I would easily pick one up.  As they say... buy once, cry once. =).... although I would need to cry a lot since I would need a big one.... humn.... gun room..... yeah.  only if we build a house. hehe.

One of mine is a 4 gauge Sturdy Safe with torch plates welded to the door and walls. It looks like shit. But you can't get a driver's license between the door and the frame anywhere. The door won't move at all when it is locked. It's just hardened steel (and torch resistant SS) and quality manufacturing.

Wow archives. I feel two years younger reading this.