So they passed the bill requiring mandatory training to get your FID card. What exactly are the training requirements?

 

Who is John Galt?

I am so excited I figured out how to change my signature.

So they passed the bill requiring mandatory training to get your FID card. What exactly are the training requirements?

No, they released the bill out of the assembly budget committee.  It still has to go before the general assembly for a vote.  Then to the governors desk for a yes or no, or a leave it sit on my desk for 45 days and then it automatically becomes law. 

 

There are no specific requirements in the bill.  From what I've heard, it'll be up to NJSP.  So it'll be something insanely expensive or impossible to qualify so they can deny us our rights.  Jim Crow laws in the 60's during the civil rights movement made it illegal to require a "test" to vote.  Since voting is a constitutional right, Scott Bach said today during his testimony that it would be appropriate to assume that it(Jim Crow law) applies to all constitutional rights, including the 2nd Amendment.   So if they eventually do make it a law, I would foresee a lawsuit aimed at striking at least that part of the law down. 

Ok the bill is out of committee but an antigun bill will sail through the assembly and senate because the democrats hold a majority in both. They don't need a single republican vote to make this bill a law. I will believe Christy will veto it when I see it with my own eyes.

 

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If he doesn't veto it he can kiss his shot at presidency good-bye. No republican will

Vote for him and the demos will still vote demo. If he has any brains or respect for our state/country he will veto it

Ok the bill is out of committee but an antigun bill will sail through the assembly and senate because the democrats hold a majority in both. They don't need a single republican vote to make this bill a law. I will believe Christy will veto it when I see it with my own eyes.

 

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This is why there are already anti-gun bills sitting on Christie's desk.  He hasn't done diddly with them, yet.  Probably just going to let them run their 45 day course and automatically become law.  "It wasn't my signature that made them law". 

I started running small classes of friends just so it's out of the way before the big rush hits

If he doesn't veto it he can kiss his shot at presidency good-bye. No republican will

Vote for him and the demos will still vote demo. If he has any brains or respect for our state/country he will veto it

What makes you think he will run as a republican? He is taking money from Dems left and right and he is a RINO as it is.

 

I started running small classes of friends just so it's out of the way before the big rush hits

This is pointless without knowing the requirements. 

Says proof of training. NRA first steps and basic we were told would be sufficient.

 

 

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Even the bill is conflicting in that regard.  It spells out some specifics:

 

Acceptable evidence of successfully completing a firearms safety class or course shall include, but not be limited to:

• a copy of the applicant’s DD214 or a Certificate of Release or Discharge from Active Duty,
• a certificate indicating satisfactory completion of an NRA firearms course,
• a New Jersey hunting license or New Jersey Hunter’s Education Course card or certificate
• a New Jersey permit to carry a handgun,
• a certificate that the applicant is a certified NRA Firearms Instructor,
• a copy of a firearms or hunting license or permit from any other jurisdiction that requires the holder to successfully complete a comparable firearms safety class or course, or
• any other such documentation, certificate, or certification that the superintendent deems appropriate.

 

And some general statements: 

  

The course or class, which shall be not more than four hours in total, may be offered by the National Rifle Association, a State or local law enforcement agency, junior college, college, university, firearms training school, or any other entity approved by the superintendent.

 

 

But then goes on to say the superintendent shall define what's in the class and consult a 'panel'
 

    The superintendent shall prescribe the basic curriculum for the firearms safety class or course required under this section.

     In developing that curriculum, the superintendent shall consult with a firearms safety panel which shall consist of four members.  Two of the members shall be appointed by the Senate President; one shall represent organizations, associations, or clubs promoting hunting, shooting sports or competitions and one of whom shall represent organizations, associations, or other entities advocating gun violence prevention.  Two of the members shall be appointed by the Speaker of the General Assembly; one shall represent organizations, associations, or clubs promoting hunting, shooting sports or competitions and one shall represent organization, associations or other entities advocating gun violence prevention.  The superintendent shall serve as chair of the panel.  The panel shall meet at those times and in those places as the chair shall determine.

Voyager9 your post explains it all there are to many variables to who may train and what he training will consist of.

 

Shawn it says the a certified NRA instructor may be approved. So you are doing training on a possibility NJ politicians will keep their word. Good luck.

 

 

Who is John Galt?

I am so excited I figured out how to change my signature.

Perhaps we should be expecting him to sign this and many more, depending on which base he is pandering to...

 

 

http://www.gallup.com/poll/163082/paul-ryan-favorite-republicans.aspx

 

In fact, Christie's net favorable is higher among Democrats (+37) than it is among Republicans (+28). Christie has become much better known in recent months, likely due to his response to Superstorm Sandy. That response has included public appearances alongside President Barack Obama.

Each of the Republican officeholders is less familiar to Democrats than to Republicans. Ryan and Christie are best known among Democrats, with at least 70% having an opinion of them.

The net favorable scores for all five Republicans are in positive territory among all Americans. That is because rank-and-file Republicans are more familiar with, and generally much more positive toward, the five GOP officeholders than are Democrats.

Christie, with net positive ratings among both party groups, has the highest score among all Americans, with Rubio second. Ryan's high negatives from Democrats leave him with a +8 net favorable rating among all Americans, although that is a bit better than the +2 and +3 scores Gallup measured for him during the 2012 campaign.