This is Deff a "what the h3ll?" People are friggin crazy

 

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3828983?ncid=edlinkusaolp00000003&ir=Crime

Got to get that corner lot!

Another article?

Yeah I read a lot of news articles. Interesting ones I share. 2 nut bags shooting guns off over a camp site is Deff interesting

Yeah I read a lot of news articles. Interesting ones I share. 2 nut bags shooting guns off over a camp site is Deff interesting

Moreso because it is two nut bag sheriff deputies?

Fire them both and take away pensions and be done with it.

Even if they weren't I still would have read and shared it.

 

 

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This is what always gets to me...

 

Both deputies were relieved of duty with pay.

Gotta love LA....

Meanwhile in China:

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/23/sex-doll-saved-from-drowning_n_1696434.html?1343140641

Considering the word "intoxicated" is the 3rd word of the article, nothing after that should surprise anyone.  It's been proven time and time again that alcohol is the cause of most issues like this. 

Considering the word "intoxicated" is the 3rd word of the article, nothing after that should surprise anyone.  It's been proven time and time again that alcohol is the cause of most issues like this. 

 

Lets make all alcohol illegal.  Or should we just start with assault alcohol?

No story here. It was a campsite pop. Similar to the desk pop. What, you've never done a desk pop?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo9tLrOHXH4

Lets make all alcohol illegal.  Or should we just start with assault alcohol?

 

Actually….I’d start with a ban on high capacity alcohol containers…and accessories...anything 40oz or above or smaller with one or more of the following items:

 

Twist off caps,  Labels with the word "malt liquor", cans with dual vent dispensing ports, any labeled beer with the word “lite” or “ultra”, so on and so forth…etc etc…

 

Lets make all alcohol illegal.  Or should we just start with assault alcohol?

 

I would have no problem with making it illegal.

I would have no problem with making it illegal.

 

good call since making it illegal the first time went really well... and making drugs illegal sure is working out well..

 

you can't legislate common sense and morality.. you either have it or you dont.. 

good call since making it illegal the first time went really well... and making drugs illegal sure is working out well..

 

you can't legislate common sense and morality.. you either have it or you dont.. 

 

 

So I guess you feel we should legalize all drugs, rape, murder and assault?  Sounds like your opinion is that since many are doing it, that should warrant it being OK and legal to do.  If I've misinterpreted what you've said, than I apologize.

So I guess you feel we should legalize all drugs, rape, murder and assault?  Sounds like your opinion is that since many are doing it, that should warrant it being OK and legal to do.  If I've misinterpreted what you've said, than I apologize.

 

 

sure you have... and made an absurd argument of it..

 

if you think some junky shooting heroin in some back alley is the same as someone murdering your wife... this conversation is not going to go far....

we waste a TON of effort... a TON of money... and a TON of jail space on people that have non violent drug problems....

 

I have no interest in locking someone up that does drugs and I don't think drugs should be illegal... the illegality of drugs does NOTHING to stop drug abuse.... I have in my lifetime known personally drug addicts (heavy serious drugs like heroin... crack cocaine)... NONE OF THEM CARE THAT DRUGS ARE ILLEGAL... the legality of drugs has NO impact on their use.. I on the other hand choose not to do drugs... why? not because they are illegal... but instead because they represent no value to me...  I do drink on occasion... and have never caused anyone else a problem..

 

my freedoms end where yours begin... and not an inch before...

if someone wants to get trashed in their home.. let them.. who cares..

if they want to drive like that.. lock them up..

if they want to steal to get drug money... lock them up...

 

punish the actions that have impact on society... but lose this stupid notion that you can stop people from making stupid choices by making things illegal.. because its not working... and it is a HUGE waste of time...

 

FURTHER... all drug prohibition accomplishes is fueling a criminal underground... one rich with violence.. and crime.. all to support a market that holds an imaginary inflated value due to government involvement.. 

 

take marijuana.. generally accepted as relatively mild "drug"... it is essentially a garden weed.... but a garden weed that carries a value of hundreds of dollars an ounce.. sold illegally by people carrying guns illegally... shooting at one another... smuggled in from other countries.. make it legal tomorrow... now whats it worth? nothing.. when you remove value from a business.. legal or illegal.. you destroy the viability of that business.. thus removing its need for existence... 

 

this is not some concept I just thought up.. this is something I have given a TON of thought to..

drug laws are IDENTICAL to gun laws..

they are feel good laws that have NO impact on the real problem.... view the situation with LOGIC and not EMOTION.. and you may come to that same realization.. 

So I guess you feel we should legalize all drugs, rape, murder and assault?  Sounds like your opinion is that since many are doing it, that should warrant it being OK and legal to do.  If I've misinterpreted what you've said, than I apologize.

 

Considering prohibition lead to a huge rise in organized crime, and all the drug war has accomplished is wasting hundreds of billions of dollars, I'm with vladtepes.

Another article?

about cops again..what else would you expect. The obsession continues. If i want to read news articles all the time i will go to a news site. This is not a news site.

about cops again..what else would you expect. The obsession continues. If i want to read news articles all the time i will go to a news site. This is not a news site.

 

it may be about two idiots that happen to be cops... but it is not about all cops... it is not about you... it is not about cops that do the right thing..

 

it is about a couple of idiots.... so lets try not to make this about "all cops" or "them VS us" because it has NOTHING to do with that.. 

sure you have... and made an absurd argument of it..

 

if you think some junky shooting heroin in some back alley is the same as someone murdering your wife... this conversation is not going to go far....

we waste a TON of effort... a TON of money... and a TON of jail space on people that have non violent drug problems....

 

I have no interest in locking someone up that does drugs and I don't think drugs should be illegal... the illegality of drugs does NOTHING to stop drug abuse.... I have in my lifetime known personally drug addicts (heavy serious drugs like heroin... crack cocaine)... NONE OF THEM CARE THAT DRUGS ARE ILLEGAL... the legality of drugs has NO impact on their use.. I on the other hand choose not to do drugs... why? not because they are illegal... but instead because they represent no value to me...  I do drink on occasion... and have never caused anyone else a problem..

 

my freedoms end where yours begin... and not an inch before...

if someone wants to get trashed in their home.. let them.. who cares..

if they want to drive like that.. lock them up..

if they want to steal to get drug money... lock them up...

 

punish the actions that have impact on society... but lose this stupid notion that you can stop people from making stupid choices by making things illegal.. because its not working... and it is a HUGE waste of time...

 

FURTHER... all drug prohibition accomplishes is fueling a criminal underground... one rich with violence.. and crime.. all to support a market that holds an imaginary inflated value due to government involvement.. 

 

take marijuana.. generally accepted as relatively mild "drug"... it is essentially a garden weed.... but a garden weed that carries a value of hundreds of dollars an ounce.. sold illegally by people carrying guns illegally... shooting at one another... smuggled in from other countries.. make it legal tomorrow... now whats it worth? nothing.. when you remove value from a business.. legal or illegal.. you destroy the viability of that business.. thus removing its need for existence... 

 

this is not some concept I just thought up.. this is something I have given a TON of thought to..

drug laws are IDENTICAL to gun laws..

they are feel good laws that have NO impact on the real problem.... view the situation with LOGIC and not EMOTION.. and you may come to that same realization.. 

 

Considering prohibition lead to a huge rise in organized crime, and all the drug war has accomplished is wasting hundreds of billions of dollars, I'm with vladtepes.

 Agreed +a google (the number, not the company)

 

Although, I do think that committing any other crime WHILE using a drug should have severely enhanced penalties. There should also still be criminalization of drug use while doing certain high-risk activities, or engaging in certain professions. For instance, use a "home-owner" size backhoe in your own garden, all by yourself, while high? fine. If you want to be stupid, have it. Attempt to run a dozer on a busy construction site, with any drugs in your systems? Instant crime, even if nothing goes wrong. Same for,say, doctors, cops, truck drivers,etc.... Professions where being even a little "off" from drugs is clearly an unacceptable condition. Show up for work that way, and instant crime.

There should also be prohibitions against public use.

I agree with clad also. The war on drugs is a huge waste of money.

The war on some drugs is a waste. Things like meth, coke, heroin, bath salts and other drugs of that nature need to be stopped. Things like marijuana should be legalized and taxed. Marijuana is where a good portion of money is spent.

Considering prohibition lead to a huge rise in organized crime, and all the drug war has accomplished is wasting hundreds of billions of dollars, I'm with vladtepes.

If all drugs were legalized what do you think the people involved in the business do? Do you think street dealers will see the error of their ways? Gangbangers will all get educations and discover the cure for cancer? Drug lords will take their millions and invest them in eco-energy businesses? Do you really think criminals will stop being criminals?

Man did this thread de-rail...  It got way too serious....

 

I would have no problem with making it illegal.

 

And why?....what harm does a substance do on its own?  I digress

The war on some drugs is a waste. Things like meth, coke, heroin, bath salts and other drugs of that nature need to be stopped. Things like marijuana should be legalized and taxed. Marijuana is where a good portion of money is spent.

Do you honestly believe that meth, coke, heroin can be stopped? If so, do you think the methods currently being employed by LE will eventually be successful? I don't have a set opinion on whether meth, coke, etc should be stopped. I definitely feel MJ should be legal but forget the taxing it - unless someone else is selling it to you. Anyone should be able to grow it in their backyard if they so choose - free of gov't interference [read: tax]. As for the real hardcore stuff, I'm not sure because it's actually a pretty small percentage of people who do that stuff and if it was legal the crime associated with it could drop. So who are they are really hurting? Like stated above - drive, commit crime, or anything else while high or for drugs... face the music.

 

As far as methods are concerned I don't think the current drug war has been effective at all. I'm not sure it can be, even if a new strategy is devised.

 

 

If all drugs were legalized what do you think the people involved in the business do? Do you think street dealers will see the error of their ways? Gangbangers will all get educations and discover the cure for cancer? Drug lords will take their millions and invest them in eco-energy businesses? Do you really think criminals will stop being criminals?

No, they will most likely still be criminals. They are the constant in the equation. The variable is the average person who likes to smoke some weed and ends up in legal trouble because of it. That person will be removed from the equation after legalization. So instead of having one actual criminal and someone who was criminalized over something petty we will just be left with 1 actual criminal. The police won't have to waste their time dealing with the petty criminals and can focus all their efforts on actual criminals.

No I don't think anything will be stopped but those type of drugs should be kept to a minimum. Stiff penalties for those caught distributing and manufacturing the drugs. Will it completely go away no.

I love drugs. Make all drugs legal and free. All you can take and all the paraphernalia you need - gratis. Step right up!

 

Then we should outlaw responding to medical calls involving drug users and make it illegal for hospitals to revive OD'd patients.

 

Problem solved, problem stayin' solved.

I love drugs. Make all drugs legal and free. All you can take and all the paraphernalia you need - gratis. Step right up!

Then we should outlaw responding to medical calls involving drug users and make it illegal for hospitals to revive OD'd patients.

Problem solved, problem stayin' solved.

I'm ok with that....

 

You do realize the following... The war on drugs is a joke...

 

People who do drugs don't care that they are illegal...

And...

People who don't do drugs also don't care they as illegal...

 

When people decide to do something ridiculous like buy a bag of something off of a street corner... And then inject it into themselves... They are a long way past caring about the law... Or anything else for that matter...