I have no emotion on this. I just don't think it's a good idea to open fire in time square. Possible the most crowded place in the country.

I beg to differ Shawn.. Past post show that you have taken every opportunity to criticize the Law Enforcement community since your unfortunate run in with your township's LEOs....and while understandable, I can't help but suspect that your views on this subject is invariably  silted and emotional. 

I think someone wanted to be and...nevermind lol

Yeah but a few months ago when that NYPD rookie had a good shoot in NYC praise was being heaped on him..Now this and they all suck again.. A few here have more hypocritic talking points than MSNBC..

I'd give my accountant a break for screwing up my tax return. I won't give anyone a break for accidental shooting.

I beg to differ Shawn.. Past post show that you have taken every opportunity to criticize the Law Enforcement community since your unfortunate run in with your township's LEOs....and while understandable, I can't help but suspect that your views on this subject is invariably silted and emotional.

You have a good point. My opinion of law enforcement changed that night. Unfortunately a lot of law enforcement now target me. As you can see on here. Hell in 2 weeks my wife was pulled over 6 times. But I don't want a bunch of cowboys with badges running around.

 

And yes I do believe police should have training and be up to higher standards as far a firearms because its their job to carry and use one. The chances of a cop drawing his firearm is way higher then an average citizen with a ccw. Chances are you will never have to draw your firearm. Police do regularly. Now throw in the back drop of time square and its almost impossible to not hit someone when you pull the trigger.

You have a good point. My opinion of law enforcement changed that night. Unfortunately a lot of law enforcement now target me. As you can see on here. Hell in 2 weeks my wife was pulled over 6 times. But I don't want a bunch of cowboys with badges running around.

 

And yes I do believe police should have training and be up to higher standards as far a firearms because its their job to carry and use one. The chances of a cop drawing his firearm is way higher then an average citizen with a ccw. Chances are you will never have to draw your firearm. Police do regularly. Now throw in the back drop of time square and its almost impossible to not hit someone when you pull the trigger.

We've come a long way.....haven't we Shawn?

Yup

 

 

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Yup

 

 

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Let your wife or kid get accidentally shot and see if you wanna give em a break. Being yound and undertrained isnt an excuse to shoot innocent bystanders. If you can't hit your target maybe you shouldn't have a gun

 

I think if people want to own firearms they should have to know how to use them and pass some sort of qualification. 

Cops and regular people alike.  Everyone should be the same.

Cops and regular people alike. Everyone should be the same.

I'll submit to that standard as long as I'm not required to get a permit, can have 30 rd mags, and have all the other "unequal perks" provided to LEOs.

That's the point everyone will submit.  In one point someone says there should be no requirement for people to carry guns, then in the next statement you should have to hit your target to have em.

 

Which one is it?

You have a good point. My opinion of law enforcement changed that night. Unfortunately a lot of law enforcement now target me. As you can see on here. Hell in 2 weeks my wife was pulled over 6 times. But I don't want a bunch of cowboys with badges running around.

 

And yes I do believe police should have training and be up to higher standards as far a firearms because its their job to carry and use one. The chances of a cop drawing his firearm is way higher then an average citizen with a ccw. Chances are you will never have to draw your firearm. Police do regularly. Now throw in the back drop of time square and its almost impossible to not hit someone when you pull the trigger.

Was she doing anything wrong?

What I said dis there is a huge difference between a regular citizen and a Leo. Leo's use their guns often

 

 

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You have a good point. My opinion of law enforcement changed that night. Unfortunately a lot of law enforcement now target me. As you can see on here. Hell in 2 weeks my wife was pulled over 6 times. But I don't want a bunch of cowboys with badges running around.

 

And yes I do believe police should have training and be up to higher standards as far a firearms because its their job to carry and use one. The chances of a cop drawing his firearm is way higher then an average citizen with a ccw. Chances are you will never have to draw your firearm. Police do regularly. Now throw in the back drop of time square and its almost impossible to not hit someone when you pull the trigger.

Ask for attention and you will receive it.  Your a celebrity now.

What I said dis there is a huge difference between a regular citizen and a Leo. Leo's use their guns often

 

 

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No you said if you (general people, nothing specific) cant hit their target they shouldn't have guns.

 

That's what was typed.

Let your wife or kid get accidentally shot and see if you wanna give em a break. Being yound and undertrained isnt an excuse to shoot innocent bystanders. If you can't hit your target maybe you shouldn't have a gun

Here it is...

This is where it's wrong. The cops came here for no reason and I stood up to them. Everything I did was what my lawyer told me to do.

 

 

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I know a ton of people that cant hit the broad side of a barn...should they be allowed to posses guns based on your statement?

Here it is...

I was referring to the cops in ny who are shooting people

 

 

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This is where it's wrong. The cops came here for no reason and I stood up to them. Everything I did was what my lawyer told me to do.

 

 

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No one said you did anything wrong.  You asked for attention by posting something on Facebook.  You got it.  Nothing more or less.

I was referring to the cops in ny who are shooting people

 

 

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But do you think its a requirement for normal people to hit their target to carry a gun?

No one said you did anything wrong. You asked for attention by posting something on Facebook. You got it. Nothing more or less.

Would you have thought posting something on Facebook would have turned into that?

 

 

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In this day and age who knows...

Was she doing anything wrong?

Nope. Gets pulled over. Cops say something like. " I thought your sticker was bad" "didn't look like you had your seatbelt on" poke their head around. And go. She has 0 points, was only pulled over 1 time for an air freshener on her mirror since she was 17. Then all of a sudden she couldn't go across town. My in laws got followed around too.

 

 

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Nobody is saying they shouldnt be held accountable if they are wrong. In regards to the times square shooting...if you are saying they shouldnt have shot that guy after he drew on them then you are crazy. The perp put those people at risk first

How did this turn into the cops conspiring to following Shawn's family?

How did this turn into the cops conspiring to following Shawn's family?

lol

Would you have thought posting something on Facebook would have turned into that?

 

 

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given the "people of facebook" yes...its worse than a reality tv show on there..with the attention whores and drama drama drama...lol everyone parrotting things theyve read and grandstanding to be the biggest liberal alive...(wife is hooked in...im going to have an intervention soon)...lol

That's why I FEFUSE TO SUBMIT TO FACEBOOK.