Officer had much more patience than I would.  Favorite line was when Warren said he wasn't trying to be a jerk, Agreed, it seems to come pretty naturally for him...

Beavis, Butthead, et al, are wierd...Not sure why they are putting on a show like this...Albiet it is their right....I'd respect them more if they were doing something for the comunity like standing nieghborhood watch or something. But just to "test" the cops is like waving raw meat in front of a tiger.

 

On the Cop's side, I am not sure why he "played" to thier game. If he would have given them a quick check and showed them no more attention he would have been better of. He is doing exactly what Beavis and Butthead want....Oh yea, one more thing, those freakin shorts the cop is wearing gatta go - don't work with the tactical gear :-).

I just don't "get" the concept!  Tying-up a Patrol Officer's time isn't good.  I hope that serious Police business wasn't put on hold.  I hope that child that was drowning across town had a Cop respond fast enough for a "save".  Same for a heart attack victim, carjack victim, robbery victim, MVA, or the idiot weavin' and bobbin' around through traffic causing accidents.  Or the Bozo on his cell phone that just blew a stop sign and almost T-boned a school bus.  Please for the love of GOD, just let the Cops be Cops and go about their business of protecting the public.  Even in this video, the Cop had back-up respond and be video'd in the background, so that means a minimum of TWO Patrol Officers had to respond to these kids "pushing buttons"!

 

This 2A Open Carry BS just wastes too much patrol time and one of these days it's going to get somebody KILLED because of a poor response time to something more life-threatening than these 2-3 douches walkin'-around with a AR-15.

 

There is a time and place for it, when the likelihood of actually needing it outweighs the concern of the alarmed public busy calling it in to dispatch......but to do it just to make a video is in my view, POOR JUDGEMENT!

 

Dave

I think those kids are annoying to listen to, however they are right. As for the cop, I'd give him an 8 out of 10. The sheriffs deputy from the second video gets a 10/10

 

 

I wouldn't of even given him my first name or let him see/unload my rifle.

 

 

Not to hard to jump on Facebook and figure out who x,x,x, are who are all into guns and all friends in that area.

I don't think they are "right" any more than they are "wrong"

I personally don't see how they could possibly be wrong. They're acting within accordance of the law and our constitution. They were not rude in any way. They were not "belligerent" in any way. Just a couple guys walking down the street with guns.

 

The only thing they're guilty of is having annoying voices/personalities.

I agree it sucks to divert police resources away from emergencies, but.....a right not exercised is a right lost.

 

In Jersey, we have the right to openly carry unloaded rifles with an FPID card under the exemptions. I'm not stupid enough to exercise it right now because there's no payoff and the costs would be great: the panicked anti's would scream to remove the exemption. But in the event of an extended Sandy-like event (if it were bad like the Katrina looting), the open carry of rifles with full mags in a tac vest might have been indispensable

I personally don't see how they could possibly be wrong. They're acting within accordance of the law and our constitution. They were not rude in any way. They were not "belligerent" in any way. Just a couple guys walking down the street with guns.

 

The only thing they're guilty of is having annoying voices/personalities.

 

"Just a couple guys walking down the street with guns" is highly out of the ordinary, and should expect to cause some alarm and the police to swing by and see what's up.  Knowing that, and then refusing to give your name or show ID is just being a pain in the ass.  Even if it's not required, if the ultimate purpose is to gain acceptance of open-carry, it's probably best to at least show some ID and let the cop check that the rifle is legal and unloaded.  If you do it every day, eventually it will become "normal."   

"Just a couple guys walking down the street with guns" is highly out of the ordinary, and should expect to cause some alarm and the police to swing by and see what's up. Knowing that, and then refusing to give your name or show ID is just being a pain in the ass. Even if it's not required, if the ultimate purpose is to gain acceptance of open-carry, it's probably best to at least show some ID and let the cop check that the rifle is legal and unloaded. If you do it every day, eventually it will become "normal."

Baby steps

I personally don't see how they could possibly be wrong. They're acting within accordance of the law and our constitution. They were not rude in any way. They were not "belligerent" in any way. Just a couple guys walking down the street with guns.

 

The only thing they're guilty of is having annoying voices/personalities.

I didn't say they were committing a crime or constitutionally wrong in any way.

 

But doing it to be a pain in the ass and purposefully try to prod the fuzz into something isn't "right".

 

 

Its good to see some footage of LEO's doing their job. I feel bad that the LEO had to endure the intentional resistance by these clowns. ImO, they're making the case against open carry.

Just because you can, should you? Walking down the street with an AR and a camera with the intent of getting into a confrontation was enough to make these guys look like asses, but then trying to bait the cop sealed the deal.

That LEO did a great job by diffusing the situation. No, they weren't breaking the law by having the AR and camera, but they were acting suspicious, which gave the cop probable cause to ask for ID. In some cases this could have gone sideways, with an aggressive or cocky cop, but this guy didn't see a threat, and figured he'd pander a little to the camera.

Losers trying to prove a point-0

Smart LEO- 1

 

Baby steps

 

Exactly.  Conditioning.

Exactly.  Conditioning.

 

So if we want to start 'conditioning' we should cooperate with alarmed neighbors and LEOs by showing our IDs and our firearms to show we have no malintent and that we are complying with the law. Being an uncooperative smart-asses accomplishes exactly the opposite.

Wait! Like I said, let's not turn this into a chest pounding argument. Let me reiterate:

It's about the cop and how he handled the situation.

 

It's not about the idiot kids or anything else. Every freaking thing posted about stuff like this turns out the same arguments.

Everybody is always such in a hurry to banish someone from the island. This was suppose to be a positive thread in the way the officer handled it. Nothing else.

Without doubt, Officer Jim did a great job.

So if we want to start 'conditioning' we should cooperate with alarmed neighbors and LEOs by showing our IDs and our firearms to show we have no malintent and that we are complying with the law. Being an uncooperative smart-asses accomplishes exactly the opposite.

 

Pretty much.  The legality is there, it's more of a public relations battle.  Being a douche won't score many points.  

These guys are idiots. 

I still don't understand how so many people are thinking these guys are idiots,... guess it must just be that "jersey mentality"

 

They were out going about their business (whatever that may be) They were within their rights and they weren't breaking any laws or hurting anything.

 

An officer approached them, he was polite but in doing so he was attempting to violate their 4th amendment rights to UNWARRANTED (or maybe you think minding your own business and obeying the law warrants such things?) search or seizure. Now he did not press the issues and did not lie about the extent of his power and that I applaud him for.

 

These guys carrying in return were also very polite back to the responding officer who repeatedly tried to acquire identification from them when he had no legal standing to do so.

 

Yet somehow these guys are jerks? Man I think it's time for me to move....

Nothing like sticking to my original point gang.

 

 

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Nothing like sticking to my original point gang.

 

 

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LOL..... sorry.... I love when other's feel my pain....

Nothing like sticking to my original point gang.

 

 

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Well, the alternative is creating two threads to discuss the same video.  Seems like the video has more interesting things going on than just the cop's reaction.

I know gto... Might as well lock it because I can see where it will go.

I just tried to show people the better side of things, but nothing but anger exist around here.

 

 

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Well, the alternative is creating two threads to discuss the same video. Seems like the video has more interesting things going on than just the cop's reaction.

Go for it, but people can't stay on point with the OPs wishes... But in all actuality, we have enough of 'the other side' of this stuff in the forum already.

 

 

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