So I'm at EFGA right now and this happens. So what do I do with this again? Throw it to the next lane?

Damn.....What do you do?  Tap it out backwards with a wooden dowel?

Yea I would use a cleaning rod...first time I've had a squib and also the first time I've left my kit at home...throwing it seems like the only option left, otherwise, my day is over.

 

You only brought one gun to the range?

Cleaning rod is kind of a bad idea - they usually aren't substantial enough for that duty. You need to keep a brass or wood squib rod in your range bag. If wood, it should be as close to bore size as possible.

 

Factory ammo or reloads?

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

This is why I have both a coathanger and a cleaning rod in my range bag.

 

A pencil or pen will do in a pinch.

Yea I would use a cleaning rod...first time I've had a squib and also the first time I've left my kit at home...throwing it seems like the only option left, otherwise, my day is over.

First thing that would come to my mind is "Am i in for replacement barrel?", Wouldn't a cleaning rod not find a solid purchase on the bullet unless it's a JHP?I would be concerned about damaging the rifling on the business end of the barrel if it's going to take some wacks

Drive to Sarco in Easton and have Chuck their gunsmith help you with this.

 

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I have hard plastic "chopstick" in in my range bag for this. It's hard enough to knock the bullet out of the barrel but soft enough not to damage the rifling.

I have hard plastic "chopstick" in in my range bag for this. It's hard enough to knock the bullet out of the barrel but soft enough not to damage the rifling.

...got plenty of those...another thing to add to the range bag.

Throwing it over the wall will not accomplish the desired effect.

Firearm must be loaded prior to over-wall hurling for success.  Duh.

 

You only brought one gun to the range?

What he said.

 

Cleaning rod is kind of a bad idea - they usually aren't substantial enough for that duty. You need to keep a brass or wood squib rod in your range bag. If wood, it should be as close to bore size as possible.

 

Factory ammo or reloads?

 

Adios,

 

Pizza Bob

+1 I carry a wooden rod in my range bag and prefer that over brass... I know the brass won't harm the barrel, but I feel more comfortable with using a wooden one.

That was the last gun for the day, had been there since 1030 and left 20min ago. I keep a brass rod in my kit, which I left at home for the first time ever.

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Throwing it over the wall will not accomplish the desired effect.

 

Firearm must be loaded prior to over-wall hurling for success. Duh.

 

 

I was going to do that, but I only had one gun that was inop...not enough for said actions to be effective.

I appreciate all the advice for help. I'm not in need of any help though. This was an entertainment thread to bring back good memories.

I carry a 4oz brass hammer and a couple punches in my range bag. 

 

 

+1 I carry a wooden rod in my range bag and prefer that over brass... I know the brass won't harm the barrel, but I feel more comfortable with using a wooden one.

 

The wood can splinter and jam along side of the bullet, so the bullet won't move and its a bitch to get the rest of the dowel out.   Like you said earlier, brass rod as close to the size of the bore as possible.

I think throwing it over the wall only works with a live round.  There is only one sure way to find out though!

 

Ken

Did you try turning the gun off, and back on again? Did you try hammering the slide against the wall? Or did you go straight for the heart of the problem and throw it across the lane?

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For people who do think it is serious....

I do use a heavy duty cleaning rod, and it does work... depending on how far the bullet is in the barrel. =)

Some of you guys seem pretty familiar with dealing with squibs. My question is what ammo are you using? I've fired at least 500,000 rounds in my time, factory loads, my reloads, and commercial reloads (probably a couple hundred thousand more).I've had this happen exactly once with a factory round. Maybe I've just been very lucky.

 

The one time it did happen the bullet didn't fully engage the rifling and I poked it out with a cleaning rod.

I have had this happen 3 times out of all the times I have, twice during matches.

 

It was a new press and the powder measure was sticking, so not enough powder, and voila. 

 

Since I have installed a lock out die, this is never an issue. 

 

While I have not seen factory ammo squibs, I have seen factory ammo with no primer pockets that lodge the entire round into the gun.  Happened to Mike Hughes (from top shop) while I was RO'ing him in Virginia during an Area championship match. 

One needs to pay attention to quality control during reloading.

 

I've seen plenty of factory loads no primer pocket, sideways or reversed primer, crunched neck, etc. You should find these when you inspect ammo when loading mags or speedloaders. Yeah a PITA but one needs to take it seriously.

One needs to pay attention to quality control during reloading.

 

I've seen plenty of factory loads no primer pocket, sideways or reversed primer, crunched neck, etc. You should find these when you inspect ammo when loading mags or speedloaders. Yeah a PITA but one needs to take it seriously.

 

No primer pocket = Easily found during resizing/depriming.

Reversed primer = not an issue on Hornady, but you can find this during ammo inspection once you loaded it.  I have seen plenty of ammo off of dillons with reversed primer pockets.

 

The only issue I ever had reloading was with the stuck powder measure, thus causing squibs.  Very tough to double charge a load on a auto index progressive, but most of all... if you use an RCBS Lock out Die.... you will not be having double charges or squib loads.   cheap insurance, and far more reliable than factory ammo once precautions are taken.

 

Too much factory ammo with issues, especially with the ramped up production with the obama fears. 

 

So while yes, reloading opens you up to potential issues.... reloading also is the only guarantee you will get over your loads versus factory ammo.  You have absolutely no control over factory.

Some of you guys seem pretty familiar with dealing with squibs. My question is what ammo are you using? I've fired at least 500,000 rounds in my time, factory loads, my reloads, and commercial reloads (probably a couple hundred thousand more).I've had this happen exactly once with a factory round. Maybe I've just been very lucky.

 

The one time it did happen the bullet didn't fully engage the rifling and I poked it out with a cleaning rod.

 

I'm in the same boat, Griz. While I certainly haven't shot half a million rounds, I have had only 1 squib in my lifetime, which was in a bag of 'commercial reloads' but the bullet exited the barrel on it's own. I don't understand how this is such a problem for so many.

One needs to pay attention to quality control during reloading.

 

I've seen plenty of factory loads no primer pocket, sideways or reversed primer, crunched neck, etc. You should find these when you inspect ammo when loading mags or speedloaders. Yeah a PITA but one needs to take it seriously.

I'm in the same boat, Griz. While I certainly haven't shot half a million rounds, I have had only 1 squib in my lifetime, which was in a bag of 'commercial reloads' but the bullet exited the barrel on it's own. I don't understand how this is such a problem for so many.

This is my first squib. I have a pretty good procedure going with a well lit press. Something had to distract me and screw up my order of operation, leading me to miss the empty case. While it's not an excuse, it's the only thing I can think of happening because I check every case, and am normally very thorough.

I have hard plastic "chopstick" in in my range bag for this. It's hard enough to knock the bullet out of the barrel but soft enough not to damage the rifling.

Chopsticks!  Why didn't I think of that!