Hello Everyone,

I know you can carry only 3/4oz in NJ but what if I wanted to use a large canister of pepper spray for home defense? Is this legal to do? I would like to get the size that mounts on the wall in use in case of an emergency. I was also wondering is tear gas legal in NJ many pepper spray companies but this agent in their sprays. Thank you for your help.

If you could, would you?

I think my mom could benefit more from this. She does not have the strength to operate a firearm correctly to defend herself. I was think the OC spray might work for her. It is much better than nothing.

I carry a Kimber Pepper Blaster daily.  It's better than nothing and I wouldn't feel undergunned with it at home.

Try using wasp spray, it's accurate up to 30' away and hurts like hell.

Try using wasp spray, it's accurate up to 30' away and hurts like hell.

 

Epic. 

Discharging pepper spray in an enclosed environment can be detrimental to all parties involved.

Try using wasp spray, it's accurate up to 30' away and hurts like hell.

Please don't. Actually, screw the please, just don't.

 

 

You're spraying a poison at someone. Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

Epic.

 

But doesn't the can have a label saying "using this product in manner inconsistent with label instructions is a violation of federal law"?

 

I'm sure Eric Holder would have nothing better to do than to prosecute.

Please don't. Actually, screw the please, just don't.

You're spraying a poison at someone. Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

Dang - beaten by a minute!

A fire extinguisher works VERY well.  A blast from that will blind someone very quickly, then you can use the same extinguisher to smash them over the head - its a dual purpose self-defense device.

Expect to feel the effects yourself from any gas/aerosol you use, they are indiscriminate. I have never used OC and not been just as bad off as the guy or girl I sprayed. Luckily, OC doesn't effect me as bad as most folks. I think it is because I love to eat a lot of really spicy food... When using CS/CN we always use gas masks. That stuff is wicked and much harder to fight through the effects of.

 

Also keep in mind the decontamination procedures, this is your home after all. For OC indoors it's not so bad, but still pretty intensive. For CS/CN indoors it becomes a nightmare.

Please don't. Actually, screw the please, just don't.

 

 

You're spraying a poison at someone. Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

I have my parents keep a can by their front door. My wife keeps a can in her car in easy reach. If any one asks she's bringing to her office to kill spiders

 

The effects of poison on a perp are of no concern to me. Any blow back of the ingredients are worth the risk of doing nothing. Heck, that stuff rains down on me at least twice a year when I use it to get the wasps under the soffits. Probably explains a lot

I've done some research and Fox Labs products get the highest marks.

 

Check it out - especially on YOU -TUBE.

Discharging pepper spray in an enclosed environment can be detrimental to all parties involved.

I agree plus the relatively close nature at which OC must be used effectively the sprayer will definitely feel some of the effects which will not be beneficial in a HD situation.

^{Thank you for the replies. I know that there are different types of sprays can this make a difference for instance if she used foam or a stream would it work a lot better and not cross contaminate. Also does anyone know if tear gas is legal to use in NJ or should I stick with mean Green by Fox Labs?}

It is my understanding you are not allowed to have any pepper spray over .75oz in NJ regardless weather you are carrying it or not

Some BG is in your house and your worried about spraying him but shooting him dead is OK?

Trust me , Wasp-Stopper works and burns very well. I know. As far as federal laws are concerned, SCREW THEM

Actually, you are probably screwing yourself when it comes time for the civil case but hey, do what you want

Hello :911 send police and paramedics. hurry

911: whats wrong?

some guy tried to break into my house with a giant bee on his shoulder. I grabbed my wasp spray and tried to kill the bee but sprayed the burgler in the face.

911: police are on the way.stay calm.

It was a violation of federal law to spray a human.What should i do?

911: pray the Prosecutor dosen`t find out.

Actually, you are probably screwing yourself when it comes time for the civil case but hey, do what you want

It really baffles me, why anyone would want to use anything like that.

 

Screw the federal laws? You guys aren't worried about the effects of a poison on a BG? That's fine by me, but I'm sure the guys lawyer would love to hear more about it.

 

Pepper spray is designed for self defense, tested for self defense, been used who knows how many times over for self defense, and survived legal scrutiny. Everyone knows what it does, everyone knows it's limitations. And instead, there's people willing to use wasp spray because of some old wives tale that's spread around by email? It's like keeping a zip gun for self defense. I'm a big believer in using the right tool for the job.

Please don't. Actually, screw the please, just don't.

You're spraying a poison at someone. Doesn't sound like a good idea to me.

You are joking right? I could give a shit about it being a poison if someone's coming to hurt my family

You might effectively defend your self or family with wasp spray, but then when the bad guy's lawyer sues you, you will be paying up. Instead do the legal thing and shoot the intruder with a gun! 

I guess I would have to say that I wrestled the wasp spray from the perp

There is no way IMHO that any prosector will file charges if someone used wasp spray in a home invasion scenerio. Same goes for anything you can grab during that situation that is readily purchased. Just because a steak knife doesn't have an imprint on the handle that says "for culinary use only" doesn't mean you can use that against a BG but not wasp spray because that has some BS boiler plate langauage on it.

 

Regardless, anyone who thinks about a civil or criminal suit during a home invasion against their loved ones doesn't have their priorities in order

I guess I would have to say that I wrestled the wasp spray from the perp

So you are going to lie to investigators during a criminal investigation where you are the victim?

Aerosol and a lighter >

 

Because of work, I always keep a nice can of wasp spray with me. I need to climb on roofs, check out mechanical spaces, etc so I have a 'bona fide' need. Working in the school districts of Jersey City and other fine places, that spray is a nice piece of mind.

I am going to begin a documented program of daily wasp surveillance in my house. 

 

I hope that if I ever shoot an intruder with the stuff he twitches and curls up like the wasps do. 

There is no way IMHO that any prosector will file charges if someone used wasp spray in a home invasion scenerio. Same goes for anything you can grab during that situation that is readily purchased. Just because a steak knife doesn't have an imprint on the handle that says "for culinary use only" doesn't mean you can use that against a BG but not wasp spray because that has some BS boiler plate langauage on it.

 

Regardless, anyone who thinks about a civil or criminal suit during a home invasion against their loved ones doesn't have their priorities in order

You are right... The time to think about the criminal or civil suit that will surely follow is not during the incident. The time to think about what you will do on one of the worst days of your life and how your decisions will affect you and your family financially, emotionally, and privately is before it happens, just as we are doing now. That way, when something does happen, you are prepared to defend yourself and your loved ones properly, and with the least amount of negative consequences as possible.

 

If you had a home invader come into your house and catch you in your garage/storage shed/work room where you kept the wasp spray regularly, like a "reasonable person" - important phrase there when it comes to use of force - and then it was used, that's one thing. Keeping wasp spray next to your bed or near the front door, specifically to be used as a weapon, that's something else entirely.

 

Yes, DPF is DPF in defense of your life or that if a loved one. In the heat of the moment you grab what's available - frying pan, knife, rolling pin, book, flashlight, etc... and do what you have to do. Staging neurotoxins around your house is different than grabbing a steak knife as you are being assaulted.

 

We live in one of the most, if not the most, litigious state in the nation. We regularly shake our heads at what folks successfully sue for and are the amount of money they awarded. Sue because you didn't know your coffee was hot? Get millions. Sue because you got bit by a dog when you were breaking into someones house? Hundreds of thousands. All it takes is one scumbag attorney to say "I'll take that case" and you are in for years of pain and bankrupting lawyer fees - even if you are acquited.

 

Why on God's green Earth would you PLAN to do something that you know is going to cause you more trouble in the long run, when you can plan to do it the right way and save yourself some serious heartache down the road?