I could have sworn I saw a thread about this already, but a search pulled up nothing so here we go.

 

I bought my wife a Glock 19 Gen 4 for Christmas, so the day after we took it to the range.  I brought a couple boxes of PMC Bronze 115 grain 9mm, and it ejected almost every casing back in our faces.  When I called up Glock, the rep said he had never heard of the issue, and that I should try 124 or 147 grain ammo.  I checked online and found many other people that seemed to be having this issue too, and the only solution seemed to be to buy a third party extractor.

 

Anyone else have this issue, and know of an easier fix?  I'd prefer not to spend more money on it, but I'd rather buy a new extractor than have to send it back in to Glock.

Yes this issue exists.

 

First thing first, what is the number on your ejector? If its not 30274, you need to upgrade it.

 

Second, check rsa. The new upgraded RSA is 0-4-3. If this is not what you have, you need the newer one.

 

Third, if you have the correct ejector and rsa, then you need to polish the extractor. I might have a couple polished extractors lying around.

 

Fourth, use hotter target ammo. Speer lawman 115gr is 1200fps and really works well in the Glock Gen 4's.

 

What ever you do, don't spend $60 on an aftermarket extractor.

Thanks for the tips.  Just one question.  What's an RSA?

Thanks for the tips.  Just one question.  What's an RSA?

 

RSA = Recoil Spring Assembly

Thanks for the tips. Just one question. What's an RSA?

Recoil spring assembly. If yours is 0-4 and not 0-4-3, it needs to be swapped. Its stamped on the circular face of the spring.

 

Let me know you part numbers. You might have bought an early Gen 4. Either way it a problem easily solved.

The RSA is 0-4-3, but I won't be able to check the extractor til later tonight.  The casing they used to test it shows it was done on 12-12-13.  Any idea if that would mean I have the correct extractor, or could they have just had an older one sitting around in the factory?

Ejector is on the frame on top of the trigger housing. With that date it will most likely be a 30274.

 

I can give you a polished extractor if you wan to try it. But I think being so new you just need hotter ammo for a few hundred rounds.

The proverbial Bees-Knees:

 

https://apextactical.com/store/product-list.php?pg1-cid22.html

The extractor is 30274, so I guess I'll just try polishing and using hotter ammo.

 

Thanks for the tips.  I really like this gun, and was thinking about getting a 23 for myself but this made me hesitate a little.

The proverbial Bees-Knees:

 

https://apextactical.com/store/product-list.php?pg1-cid22.html

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That's the $60 extractor I was talking about.

 

Some people say it helps, others not so much. Personally i wouldnt buy it. Spend the money on a couple boxes of speer lawman 115gr fmj. Its 1200fps and as close to shooting 124+p as it gets without buying premium ammo. The PMC is at the low end of power and is probably the cause on a brand new G19 G4.

 

If that doesn't do it, like I said, I have a couple extractors that I Arkansas stoned top and bottom that you can try.

The extractor is 30274, so I guess I'll just try polishing and using hotter ammo.

 

Thanks for the tips. I really like this gun, and was thinking about getting a 23 for myself but this made me hesitate a little.

The Glock Gen 4 .40's don't experience this issue. Buy a 23 with confidence.

 

BTW, the 30274 is your "ejector".....

Why do manufacturers insist on messing with their designs? First sig with their reliable short extractors and now glock. Makes no sense to me

The Glock Gen 4 .40's don't experience this issue. Buy a 23 with confidence.

 

BTW, the 30274 is your "ejector".....

Not only does my Gen4 G22 not do this with .40 cal, but it does not do it when I use my KKM conversion barrel and shoot light weight 9mm either.

The thing that gets me is that Glock refuses to acknowledge the issue.  The rep I talked to said he'd never heard of it, and told me to send it back to them only as a last resort.  On my previous firearm purchases I'd done a lot of research, but I figured I didn't need to on this one because my wife tested one out and I'd only heard good things about Glocks.  Hopefully they can figure out a fix for this.  I love this thing, and am probably more accurate with it than any other handgun I've ever fired.

The thing that gets me is that Glock refuses to acknowledge the issue.

.....and they wont. Ever.

Its a mentality thing with them started by their Euro bosses. There s no thing as a recall with Glock.

 

Do the steps described and you ll end up with the requested result.

Grip!

Not only does my Gen4 G22 not do this with .40 cal, but it does not do it when I use my KKM conversion barrel and shoot light weight 9mm either.

Same with mine. I think I've banged enough rounds thru it that it no longer does it.

Grip!

This^^^^

Grip as in limp wristing?

Yup

Nope.  My wife was limp wristing it causing ftf's and fte's, but I was only experiencing the ejection issues.

Ok without seeing your grip it's really hard to say. Is this your first pistol?

Ok without seeing your grip it's really hard to say. Is this your first pistol?

 

Nope.  I have a Ruger SR45, and I have shot many other handguns before without experiencing this issue.  We even went out over the summer and rented a gen 3 19, which we had no issues with.

Ok it seems it may actually just be the ammo. PMC tends to be on the weak side. Did the cases kind of seem like they were just making it out of the ejection port and into your face?

Ok it seems it may actually just be the ammo. PMC tends to be on the weak side. Did the cases kind of seem like they were just making it out of the ejection port and into your face?

 

Not too sure since it was almost two weeks ago.  I know a couple actually went over my head.

I would try using a hotter ammo like speer lawman or any SD ammo. That like glock said help but if it still happens send it back to them.

First, I am a Glock user. I like Glocks and given a choice, I will choose my Glocks over another pistol anytime. I just have a realistic expectation of what they are - despite advertising voodoo they are not "Perfect", and I know what to expect from the company as far as admission is issues. I also know that despite Glocks standard answer when calling them about a problem gun, that it is very rarely the the shooter or the ammo that is the problem. That being said...

 

This ain't a limp-wristing or a cold ammo issue. This is a common problem with the Gen4 9mm. It is a mechanical problem with the gun, but it is fixable. Installing the correct RSA and correct/upgraded extractor should fix it with no more weak or inconsistent ejection.

 

Glock won't admit it is a problem on their end. They never have and never will. Keep in mind that this is a company that set up an entire machine shop in NYC after NYPD had repeated issues with their guns. They repaired 10s of thousands if guns, running them through an extensive inspection and maintenance program, that for the most part solved the issues - but never once admitted that the issue was Glock's own fault.

 

"Limp wristing" is a bull-shit excuse anyway. Glocks are made as combat guns. You don't always have the luxury of a perfect firing grip in the real world. You could be hurt, wounded, or tired. Your hands could otherwise preoccupied or slippery. The gun should still work. Period.

 

I know my Glocks run fine with weak grips, limp wristing, low powered ammo, etc..... This one should too.

Had a simular issue in mine. The more i shot the better it cycled

Glock won't admit it is a problem on their end. They never have and never will. Keep in mind that this is a company that set up an entire machine shop in NYC after NYPD had repeated issues with their guns. They repaired 10s of thousands if guns, running them through an extensive inspection and maintenance program, that for the most part solved the issues - but never once admitted that the issue was Glock's own fault.

 

 

 

My G19 Gen 3 went back to Glock for an issue. They claimed it was not repeatable, yet rebuilt the gun and supposedly put 200 rounds through it for testing.

is it only the gen4 that has this problem?  if i was looking for a new g19, should i go with gen 3?