You guys ever watch " The road", took me two sittings, its a tough watch. Holy Crap. PSA- make sure you have more than a couple bullets when SHTF.  I can definitely see cannibalism if stuff gets that bad.

Yah, that was pretty good.  I should watch it again.

 

I would think it hits home even more if you have a son or kids.

 

Have you seen Children of Men? 

 

The Divide is another good SHTF type movie (only a 5.8 on IMDB but worth a watch).

The road is great, if you liked the movie I highly suggest reading the book. The ending is a lot better in the book

 

 

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Saw it and it affirmed my position of bugging in somewhere isolated and out of the way with substantial provisions of all sorts.

Hard to believe, but the book was darker than the movie, and the ending was more open to interpretation.

 

Cormac McCarthy also wrote Blood Meridian and No Country for Old Men; pretty much everything with his name on it is excellent.

Great movie.  Extremely realistic.  As in the movie, the biggest problem with an end of the world situation is FOOD.  I repeat FOOD.

+1 on the Book... I did the audio tapes on a trip down to Florida. Felt like a drive to supermarket...

That movie was the reason I started prepping.

Very good movie.... The Filming style was creepy and added a lot to the realism

Read the book and didn't want to watch the movie.

Same thing with "American Psycho" although I still make dinner reservations as Patrick Bateman just to annoy my wife.

Saw it and it affirmed my position of bugging in somewhere isolated and out of the way with substantial provisions of all sorts.

Except that is where the movie starts. The thing about the road is that it's non-specific teotwawki has the net result of eliminating any functioning ecology. You can't bug out or bug in, it's just what you do until the bitter end if the world.

Except that is where the movie starts. The thing about the road is that it's non-specific teotwawki has the net result of eliminating any functioning ecology. You can't bug out or bug in, it's just what you do until the bitter end if the world.

The kind of disaster that destroys the natural ecology isn't very high on my list of scenarios to prepare for nor is it one that I would necessarily want to survive in. I use "in" and "through" with regard to survival because one says this is the way it is and will be while the other says it's a temporary condition to ultimately work through.

 

The most likely is social/financial collapse, in my opinion, and that's what I prep for. I prep for that because not only do I feel it's the most likely to occur but also because it's one I would want to survive through and make it to the other side when rebuilding takes place. Surviving for the sake of surviving in a hopeless world without the chance of improvement is not one that I would necessarily want to survive in.

I think any serious disaster would destroy the ecology as a secondary effect as humans will act like locusts, specially during the first winter. 

agree w/ Vlad G .. if economic infrastructure falls , humans would surely scour what's left with our famous scorched earth tendencies  

TEOTWAWKI seems unlikely, but IIRC, there's a 5-6 day rule after a SHTF event before all order collapses given no sign of emergency response.  

wait ... there are rules for TEOTWAWKI?.. 5-6 day rule? .. 

The 5-6 day rule was something I read about in a study.  I'll have to dig it up.  Basically, it has to do with the average amount of supplies a family has on-hand and in the supply chain in general.  And, the fact that someone without food/water and nothing left to lose is bad news.

The 5-6 day rule was something I read about in a study.  I'll have to dig it up.  Basically, it has to do with the average amount of supplies a family has on-hand and in the supply chain in general.  And, the fact that someone without food/water and nothing left to lose is bad news.

i see , thanks for clarifying .. sounds about right 

Hurricane Sandy was a quasi good example, we were without power 7-10 days, and it sucked, even with generators. I have family still active LEO and believe me there were people on the fringe of really losing it.  Example fist fights , stabbings in the gas lines. (Kept quiet) . If the event were for an extended period of time as a whole, and no there was where to leave to, it would have gotten rather ugly relatively quick. Shoot, just to get milk for my little ones was a couple hour event.  I wont complain as I still had a house to live in, unlike how some folks ended up.

 

Lessons I got out of that movie:

 

Bug in until you cant anymore Location /event specific of course, but ultimately movement is key. Move or Die basically and in the end, you only got what you can carry on your back.

AS Midwest said: The most likely is social/financial collapse, in my opinion.

 

 

Agreed.

After Sandy people on Long Island had no police for 7 days. They are the example of wanting to have 7 days of generator, fuel, some food and water, your guns, and battery operated motion detection lights. See my post on Mr Beams. I bought the dome light for the front steps already. I will order the "spot" lights and keep in a box and install when needed. Would only take me 30 seconds

So what im getting is after 7 days i most likely will eat my neighbors

So what im getting is after 7 days i most likely will eat my neighbors

 

lol

"Within a year there was fire on the ridges and deranged chanting." -- The Road

 

LOL

So what im getting is after 7 days i most likely will eat my neighbors

Depends on the neighbor lol

Hard to believe, but the book was darker than the movie, and the ending was more open to interpretation.

 

Cormac McCarthy also wrote Blood Meridian and No Country for Old Men; pretty much everything with his name on it is excellent.

Blood Meridian was the most difficult book I have ever read. It took me a few months of daily ferry commutes to finish. It is dense prose, no quotation marks, and stomach churning, disturbing violence.

The Road and No Country were both much easier reads.

The 5-6 day rule was something I read about in a study. I'll have to dig it up. Basically, it has to do with the average amount of supplies a family has on-hand and in the supply chain in general. And, the fact that someone without food/water and nothing left to lose is bad news.

Keep in mind that rule is old. The 5-7 day estimate has been around since I was a kid. Several decades later with just in time inventories, I don't know if it is true anymore. Also if note, from the same era the estimate for NYC was 2-3 days.

Middle of nowhere Iowa never looked so good...

Middle of nowhere Iowa never looked so good...

Yup. I've got a lot of family out there but thats a long road to travel from NJ! Know a few abandoned coal mines too.(old family property)

So what im getting is after 7 days i most likely will eat my neighbors

 

 

Would eat mine right now if I could.