Do you have a reference for that? 

 

https://www.heartland.org/news-opinion/news/fda-study-cancer-risks-nearly-nil-for-1-2-cigars-per-day

 

http://www.rstreet.org/op-ed/fda-study-cancer-risks-nearly-nil-for-1-2-cigars-per-day/

https://www.heartland.org/news-opinion/news/fda-study-cancer-risks-nearly-nil-for-1-2-cigars-per-day

 

http://www.rstreet.org/op-ed/fda-study-cancer-risks-nearly-nil-for-1-2-cigars-per-day/

Ok, it was a staff study, but not an official agency position. There was a fair bit of data cited, they did what statistics they could with the sample sizes they had, and I'd characterize the overall results as not too alarming

 

Thanks for posting the links.

Ok, it was a staff study, but not an official agency position. There was a fair bit of data cited, they did what statistics they could with the sample sizes they had, and I'd characterize the overall results as not too alarming

 

Thanks for posting the links.

 

Yeah - they're not going to say it officially since they're trying to regulate regulate regulate now on premium cigars (vs the cheap crap you get behind the counter at a gas station).  

Anyone going to CigarFest in the Poconos tomorrow?

I Enjoy a lot of the Drew Estate stuff like the acid brands and the Tabak Especial line. Tabak Especia Dulcel is one of my favorites. It has a coffee and chocolate flavor and aroma. Really good !

I'm partial to products out of the La Zona factory. Espinosa makes  lot of really good sticks

My haul from cigarfest:

My buddy from bjj went. Bitch ass didn't even ask me.

 

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9 minutes ago, checko said:

My buddy from bjj went. Bitch add didn't even ask me.

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Gotta get tickets months in advance cuz they sell out so fast.

Gotta get tickets months in advance cuz they sell out so fast.

Really? Is it yearly or every few months

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Yearly.

 

Come to NJ Cigar Festival at Barrister in Union on the 20th.

Get tickets:

https://www.facebook.com/NJCigarFestival/posts/1272311856151671

 

I've been smoking cigars for 25 years roughly. Usually only a couple a week, depends on the weather as I don't smoke in my house. With nicer weather coming I'll be smoking more often. I used to go to Mahogany(in winter) on walnut st. in Philadelphia above Holt's but saw the owner acting badly twice and haven't been back. That was quite a few years ago and I think Holt's now owns the cigar bar above the shop. It was a great place, could be in there all day and come out not stinking of ashes. My favorite wrapper is Cameroon, Oliva Serie G, Fuente Hemingway line to name a couple.One of my favorite cigars is a Padilla Habano, smoked more of them then anything else. Used to love the La Gloria Serie R #6 until Carrillo left the company and they changed the blend, still have a couple left in my cabinet humidor though. The biggest let down of a cigar I ever had was a Fuente Opus X A in it's own coffin, terrible burn, tight draw. Davidoff special C was another good one till they were discontinued. The first cigar I ever smoked was a Royal Jamaica churchill, very mild, good beginner cigar, no longer made however. Flavored stuff has never wowed me but did nauseate me a couple times. As for maduros, Ashton aged line, CAO MX2, Kristoff Maduro, Fuente Anejo, Famous 3000 are pretty good.  Smoke what you like and lie what you smoke!

Holt's is good people and a great store to buy from - even online.

I had an Opus X BBMF that was a huge letdown.  Apparently some Opus X need some age..... like 3+ years..... before they get good.

Yearly.
 
Come to NJ Cigar Festival at Barrister in Union on the 20th.
Get tickets:
https://www.facebook.com/NJCigarFestival/posts/1272311856151671
 

Ah shit I can't on the 20th. I have a seminar and test that day

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Nick, were those freebies? If so it might the ticket price justifiable. 

1 hour ago, ChrisJM981 said:

Nick, were those freebies? If so it might the ticket price justifiable. 

All freebies.  Some of the extras (Undercrown Manifesto Coffin, Liga A Coffin, the 3 UC Flying Pigs & the 3 sticks to the right of them) were because I know some people who work with Drew Estate.  But everything else was obtainable at the event.

I paid $258 for the event tickets - Base ticket + shirt & hat upgrade.

I just did some research on the cigars that I got.... and the swag.... Value is up over $675.  Not including the Bag/AshTray/Humidor... So with that it's over $750 probably of stuff.

 

5 Vegas Limitada No. 5 Belicoso (5.7"x56) - $6.40 (CI)
601 Green Oscuro La Fuerza (Toro - 5.5"x54) - $8.00 (CI)
601 La Bomba Atom (Corona - 5.5"x46) - $7.40 (CI)
2x Aging Room Solera Festivo Sun Grown Robusto (4.75"x52) - $6.40 (Thompson)
AJ Fernandez Last Call Maduro Geniales (4.5"x48) - $5.00 (Halfwheel)
AJ Fernandez Last Call Geniales (4.5"x48) - $5.00 (Halfwheel)
Alec Bradley American Sun Grown Robusto (5"x50) - $5.10 (CI)
Alec Bradley Tempus Nicaragua Terra Novo (Robusto - 5.0"x50) - $7.10 (CI)
Arturo Fuente Rosado Gran Reserva Magnum R54 (Toro Grande - 6.5"x54) - $8.25 (Holts)
Asylum 13 Toro (6"x52) - $5.90 (Neptune)
Ave Maria Argentium Morning Star (Perfecto - 5"x58) - $8.40 (CI)
Ave Maria Immaculata Belicoso (6"x54) - $5.50 (CI)
AVO Syncro Nicaragua Fogata Toro (6"x54) - $10.30 (CI)
Bahia Gold Robusto (5"x50) - $4.00 (CI)
Bahia Vintage Torpedo (6"x52) - $3.73 (CI)
Brick House Robusto (5"x54) - $6.00 (CI)
Cain Daytona No. 4 (Corona - 5"x43) - $4.40 (CI)
Camacho Powerband Toro (6"x50) - $11.60 (CI)
CAO Flathead V554 Camshaft Maduro Robusto (5.5"x54) - $7.70 (JR)
Cuban Aristocrat Habano Robusto (5"x50) - $3.40 (CI)
Cu-Avana Maduro Robusto (4.5"x50) - $2.40 (CI) - .5" shorter than Robusto
Diamond Crown Maximus #4 Toro (6"x50) - $13.30 (CI)
Diesel Heart of Darkness Gordo (6"x58) - $9.00 (CI)
Don Pepin Garcia El Centurion Robusto (5.7"x50) - $6.90 (CI)
Don Pepin Garcia Cuban Classic 1979 (Robusto - 5"x50) - $6.40 (CI)
Don Rafael Connecticut #57 Robusto (5.5"x50) - $1.75 (CI)
Edgar Hoill Prensado Cabroncito (Corona - 4"x44) - $7.30 (CI)
E.P. Carillo Cabinet Gran Duque (Churchill - 7.2"x54) - $7.60 (CI)
E.P. Carillo La Alianza Natural Robusto Selecto (5"x52) - $6.90 (Famous)
Fonseca Arana Toro (6"x50) - $2.25 (CI)
2x Gran Habano #3 Habano Robusto (5"x50) - $4.20 (CI)
Graycliff Original Series Pirate (Torpedo - 6"x52) - $15.50 (CI)
Gurkha Heritage Maduro Toro (6.5"x54) - $8.70 (CI)
Gurkha Cask Blend 5x58 (Gordo - 5"x58) - $7.40 (CI)
2x Half Pipe Sweet Ride Corona - (5"x42) - $2.00 (CI)
HC Series Gran Limitado Robusto (5"x52) - $8.00 (CI) - No Tubo
Herrera Esteli Norteno Lonsdale (6.5"x44) - $9.70 (CI)
Hoyo La Amistad Robusto (5"x54) - $6.00 (CI)
Joya de Nicaragua Antano 1970 Robusto Grande (5.5"x52) - $6.30 (CI)
Joya Red Robusto (5.2"x50) - $4.80 (CI)
2x La Aroma de Cuba El Jefe (Gordo - 7"x58) - $6.90 (CI)
La Aurora 1495 Series Corona #4 (5.2"x43) - $5.00 (CI)
La Aurora Barrel Aged (5.25"x46) - $2.50 (Est. CI)
La Gloria Cubana Serie R Black Maduro No. 60 (6"x60) - $4.80 (CI)
La Perla Habana White Pearl Robusto (5"x52) - $4.20 (CI)
La Perla Habana 1515 Robusto (5"x52) - $4.00 (CI)
2x L'Atelier Extension De La Racine ER16 Robusto (4 7/8"x50) - $8.33 (Atlantic Cigar)
Lucious Lyon No. 3 Toro (6"x52) - $4.00 (CI) - From EMPIRE
Macanudo Inspirado Black Toro (5.7"x52) - $5.80 (CI)
Man O' War Damnation Toro (6"x52) - $5.40 (CI)
Montecristo Platinum Series Toro (6"x50) - $10.00 (CI)
Nat Sherman Metropolitan Habano Robusto (5.5"x56) - $6.30 (CI)
Nat Sherman Metropolitan Connecticut University (Robusto - 6"x50) - $5.60 (CI)
Nub 460 Habano Gordo (4.0"x60) - $6.80 (CI)
Obsidian Robusto (5.5"x54) - $4.00 (CI)
3x Oliva Connecticut Reserve Robusto (5"x50) - $6.40 (CI)
2x Oliva G Belicoso (5"x52) - $5.60 (CI)
2x Oliva G Toro (6"x50) - $5.70 (CI)
2x Oliva O Perfecto (5"x55) - $7.70 (CI)
2x Oliva O Robusto (5"x50) - $6.10 (CI)
Oliva O Toro (6"x50) - $6.60 (CI)
2x Oliva V Double Robusto (5"x54) - $7.80 (CI)
Palma Real (5"x50) - $1.40 (Est. CI)
PDR 1878 Capa Sun Grown Reserva Dominican Robusto (5"x52) - $5.80 (CI)
Perdomo 20th Anniversary Sun Grown Epicure (Toro - 6"x56) - $7.90 (CI)
Perdomo Habano Bourbon Barrel-Aged Sun Grown Epicure (Toro - 6"x54) - $7.20 (CI)
Ramon Bueso Olancho Vintage Robusto (5"x50) - $5.50 (CI)
Rocky Patel Fifty-Five Robusto (5.5"x55) - $9.25 (CI)
Rocky Patel Twentieth Robusto Grande (5"x54) - $10.30 (CI)
Rocky Patel Broadleaf Robusto (5.5"x50) - $4.60 (CI)
Rocky Patel Super Ligero Robusto (5"x50) - $7.10 (CI)
Rocky Patel Vintage 2003 Cameroon Robusto (5.5"x50) - $9.00 (CI)
Rocky Patel Royal Vintage Robusto (5.5"x50) - $5.50 (CI)
Rocky Patel Connecticut Robusto (5.5"x50) - $4.60 (CI)
Rocky Patel Sun Grown Robusto (5.5"x50) - $7.10 (CI)
Rocky Patel Decade Robusto (5"x50) - $10.00 (CI)
Rocky Patel The Edge Robusto Corojo (5.5"x50) - $6.30 (CI)
Rocky Patel The Edge Robusto Maduro (5.5"x50) - $6.30 (CI)
Rocky Patel The Edge Habano (5.5"x50) - $6.60 (Est. CI)2   
Romeo y Julieta Reserve Churchill (7"x54) - $5.20 (CI)
Tatiana Coffee Break Cafe Con Leche Cuarenta (Corona - 4"x40) - $3.90 (CI) - INFUSED
Tatiana Classic Chocolate Corona (6"x44) - $3.30 (CI) - INFUSED
Torano Exodus Robusto (5"x54) - $6.40 (CI)
2x Undercrown Shade Robusto (5"x54) - $7.00 (CI)
3x Undercrown Flying Pig (Perfecto - 4.1"x60) - $9.64 (CI)
Victor Sinclair Dominican (5"x50) - $?

Lane Very Cherry 1oz - $2.50 (CI)
Missouri Meerschaum Washington Pipe - $6.00 (CI)
Rockwell Carboy Travel Ashtray - $7.00 (CI)
Stage V Clinger Cigar Clip - $12.00 (CI)
CI Playing Cards - $3.00 (CI)
Palio Original Cutter - Black - $36.00 (CI)
Lotus Oliva Duet Lighter - $30 (Same as Lotus 3-Eleven) (CI)

Boveda 84% 60g - $4 (CI)
Boveda Bag w/ 60g 69% RH - $14 (Boveda)

CigarFest Ashtray - $??
CigarFest Humidor - $??
CigarFest Bag - $??

UC Manifestos Coffin - $Priceless
Liga A Coffin - $Priceless
Undercrown Dogma - $Priceless
UF-4 Pigtailed Version - $Priceless
Test Blend - $Priceless

Total Value - $690.58 (Not including CFest Ashtray/Humidor/Bag)

Finally took a looksee through my stash...

 

 

Nick let me know when you buy tickets for next year

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NEVER smoked in my life and NEVER will!

13 minutes ago, gunnarsport said:

NEVER smoked in my life and NEVER will!

NEVER smoked in my life and NEVER will!

You have no idea what your missing....lol

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I need to find a decent cheap cigar as a daily smoker. $2-$3 nic-fit sticks, cant afford to be smokin $8-$15+  ones every day . I'll save them for weekends, bbq's or whenever else. And no weirdo fruit flavors, any suggestions? And easy on the blasphemy......

Tattooo..........Yes I do! NO Thanks!

14 minutes ago, siderman said:

I need to find a decent cheap cigar as a daily smoker. $2-$3 nic-fit sticks, cant afford to be smokin $8-$15+  ones every day . I'll save them for weekends, bbq's or whenever else. And no weirdo fruit flavors, any suggestions? And easy on the blasphemy......

Foundation Charter Oak Maduro or Connecticut depending on your preference in tastes.

AJ Fernandez Last Call

Foundry Chillin Moose/Chillin Moose Too

 

Holt's has a 1-day flash sale today on Oliva Master Blends..  Comes to $2.99/stick

http://www.holts.com/specials/1-day-flash-sale.html

Just had a Protocol Lancero. Amazing stick

18 minutes ago, BlueLineFish said:

Just had a Protocol Lancero. Amazing stick

I've got a My Father Le Bijou 1922 lined up for 5:00...

3 hours ago, Krdshrk said:

Foundation Charter Oak Maduro or Connecticut depending on your preference in tastes.

AJ Fernandez Last Call

Foundry Chillin Moose/Chillin Moose Too

 

Holt's has a 1-day flash sale today on Oliva Master Blends..  Comes to $2.99/stick

http://www.holts.com/specials/1-day-flash-sale.html

Thanx. found some great deals on a bunch of Rocky P's to hold me till fathers day when I know I'll be loaded up with cigar store gift certs.

social- once in a while smoker here...all of my stuff has since dried out...anyone recommend a nice online sampler to get me back on track? Could use one with a new lighter and cutter

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1 hour ago, jrfly3006 said:

social- once in a while smoker here...all of my stuff has since dried out...anyone recommend a nice online sampler to get me back on track? Could use one with a new lighter and cutter

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Try Cigars International.  I've always ordered from them and never disappointed.  Plenty of samplers to select from.

https://www.cigarsinternational.com/

On 10/27/2016 at 10:15 AM, Krdshrk said:

 

FDA says 1-2 cigars per day is fine.  cancer ricks are nearly nil.

Wha? 

So for a non smoker, how are cigars different from Cancer Sticks?