I'm wondering from the Leo on here will I be penalized for cleanly pinning brakes. I'd like to pin em but make em look clean

Yes. -5 demerits. May god have mercy on your soul.

First, your title says welding, your discription says pinning, big difference.  Welding or pinning?

Two, as long as the owner is still in your presence. I don't see the harm in helping a friend out.  Doing it for money, now your a business and I'm sure you know the rules on that!

Bait ?

Are you doing the work at a location where you have other components available to make a complete evil death machine? If not, you're just welding two chunks of metal together.

 

I'm sure I'll come back later to see this thread reach 10+ pages.

Yea everything is legal

 

But I want to make it seems like it's factory installed

 

 

Nice Shawn...Another BS thread!

Not really.

The law is perm attached. I'm n the trades and could do this work no prob. I do it now but am forced to leave a sign.

 

Last night

Just got off phone with njsp. They said their is no set standard to how it's permanently attached but if I attach a letter from the ffl it's fine

Surely you don't have the other parts to assemble a complete AR on hand or you wouldn't have posted that picture for the world to see, right?  

With an ffl I think I'm okz

I was looking for Leo opinion. I want to perfect making it look like it was never pinned. I'll have a union painter spray it on the way to to finish it

I am confused. Did someone takeover S81 account and posting spam or is this him ?  Since when "leaving a trace of brake job" come into picture become cause for concern ?

I don't want a customer getting in trouble for not having a visibly pinned brake

In 2014 2 of my guns went though prosecutors offices. One in north jersey and one in Camden county. The Camden county one involved Nappen and had to actually be fought

Both were due to restraining orders. Not because of the gun

If you dont mind, "your" guns or your customer guns that specific job was done on ?

I build ar's. A lot of em.

But when it involves ro's I won't say who they are. Not my job to say that

https://www.atf.gov/files/publications/download/p/atf-p-5320-8/atf-p-5320-8-chapter-2.pdf

 

On barrels that are already 16" you are probably fine following NJ guidelines alone. However, I'm pretty sure that if you are permanently attaching a brake on a < 16" in order to make the 16" requirement for a rifle as designated by federal law it is more specific in approved methods than just making "permanent".

 

The ATF procedure for measuring barrel length is to measure from the closed bolt (or breech-face) to the furthermost end of the barrel or permanently attached muzzle device. Permanent methods of attachment include full-fusion gas or electric steel-seam welding, high-temperature (1100°F) silver soldering, or blind pinning with the pin head welded over. Barrels are measured by inserting a dowel rod into the barrel until the rod stops against the bolt or breech-face. The rod is then marked at the furthermost end of the barrel or permanently attached muzzle device, withdrawn from the barrel, and measured.

https://www.atf.gov/files/publications/download/p/atf-p-5320-8/atf-p-5320-8-chapter-2.pdf

 

I am sure someone more versed in this than me will be along shortly to verify or correct me.

 

Are you an FFL holder?

This is unclear to me.  Shawn - You have a FFL?

Yes but it can't be talked about on here. The other ffl' throw a fit to the mods

If he's not an 07 FFL holder and paying the 11% FET he may want to take this thread down. But you know he won't, he thrives on drama.

No it's legit. But mods on here giver crap

I just don't get it lol

Get ehay

Yes but it can't be talked about on here. The other ffl' throw a fit to the mods

So of course you find a way to being it up.

My head hurts.