From all I know about revolvers, which I admit you could inscribe on a grain of rice, the GP100 is a fine Toyota Corolla. It works, it's reliable, its looks are inoffensiveness, the price is acceptable, its performance perfectly average. 

 

Its just that no one LOVES their Toyota Corolla, unless they simply don't know any better about what cars can do. 

 

Don't worry about using all your permits, shoot more guns, and buy the best one you can afford.

Well again, I tried both the GP100 and 627 and to me the ruger had smoother action and a better feel to it.

 

Maybe the gp100's (I've tried 3 so far) were just steller examples, maybe the 627 I tried was a dud, who knows. All I can say is my current Ruger is a great gun, every othe ruger I've tried is a great gun. The limited amount of S&W's I've tried (again, limited) were nothing to write home about. Yes they cost more but their price didn't match what I was holding. Again, maybe I handled a couple bad apples.

TBH, I have no problems with your argument for the GP100, if you like it better then certainly buy it.  However maybe consider not buying the Taurus and the Charter and using the money on ammo. Where the Ruger is a Corolla, those other two are like Kia Rio's

TBH, I have no problems with your argument for the GP100, if you like it better then certainly buy it.  However maybe consider not buying the Taurus and the Charter and using the money on ammo. Where the Ruger is a Corolla, those other two are like Kia Rio's

Well the Taurus to me is a fun gun and already purchased, it's not expensive and I like shooting 22LR's I admit there's better guns out there but for what I want it for it works great.

 

I never mentioned a Charter, my second gun will be a Chiappa Rhino and unless you've tried one you don't know what you're missing. It's a great gun, smooth action, feels perfect in my hands, I love the low mussle kick it has, nice and light weight, etc.

 

The thread was started to helop get ideas for the third gun as my orignial intent was to buy a gun that once I tried it I didn't care for it. I'm also limiting my budget because I shoot as a hobby for fun. If I had to I can afford more but would prefer not to spend it if I don't have to.

 

I do apperciate everyone's opinions on the subject and will try out a few more pieces before I make any desicions.

Can I have it?

Can I have it?

Limited model mo' sorry

 

686 classic hunter model, 6 inch full lug, and unfluted cylinder is sessy

You used all those words just to say "yes". You are very confusing

It sounds like you've already convinced yourself you like the Ruger GP100 the best, which is fine.

 

My first revolver was a GP100 too, though it didnt stay in my safe very long when I got " serious " about revolver shooting.

 

Alot of my opinions come from actually shoot-ability , my primary focus is competitive shooting fully based around revolvers. I dont care about how shinny the finish is, what color the grips are, etc.

 

Pizza Bob has written out a pretty detailed post somewhere explaining the metallurgy between the rugers and the smiths, the reason why the ruger " feels " more solid, is because the ruger requires so much more metal in certain places to withstand pressures, so yes - it is thicker, and beefier, and it may give the impression that it is stronger. The smiths have a better casting process from what I understand.

 

As far as the triggers are concerened, if all you plan to do is take it out of the box and shoot it, go with whatever trigger feels best to you, But the smith and wessons can be tuned so much better, and easier then the rugers. You could easily probably drop a few pounds off your double action trigger with about 20 dollars in springs and 10 minutes of your time, furthermore - you can decide to stone and polish the internals and make the trigger even smoother.

 

Resale value:

 

I think Joe is selling his GP100s for what? 400 bucks? You'll never find a desirable smith and wesson that low, once you buy it - the value does nothing but rise.

It sounds like you've already convinced yourself you like the Ruger GP100 the best, which is fine.

 

My first revolver was a GP100 too, though it didnt stay in my safe very long when I got " serious " about revolver shooting.

 

Alot of my opinions come from actually shoot-ability , my primary focus is competitive shooting fully based around revolvers. I dont care about how shinny the finish is, what color the grips are, etc.

 

Pizza Bob has written out a pretty detailed post somewhere explaining the metallurgy between the rugers and the smiths, the reason why the ruger " feels " more solid, is because the ruger requires so much more metal in certain places to withstand pressures, so yes - it is thicker, and beefier, and it may give the impression that it is stronger. The smiths have a better casting process from what I understand.

 

As far as the triggers are concerened, if all you plan to do is take it out of the box and shoot it, go with whatever trigger feels best to you, But the smith and wessons can be tuned so much better, and easier then the rugers. You could easily probably drop a few pounds off your double action trigger with about 20 dollars in springs and 10 minutes of your time, furthermore - you can decide to stone and polish the internals and make the trigger even smoother.

 

Resale value:

 

I think Joe is selling his GP100s for what? 400 bucks? You'll never find a desirable smith and wesson that low, once you buy it - the value does nothing but rise.

Actually I never said the gp100 is the best. All I said was the gp100's I've tried felt much better then the 627.

 

And I've heard the argument about the difference in the frames and how S&W can make one better, then you'll find another thread that tears apart S&W for off shoring parts to Mexico.

 

I understand you shot more then me, and I apperciate the feedback, I also understand resale value as one of my other hobbies is guitars and resale value on them swing greatly depending on the name on the headstock, not always the quality or features.

 

And as I said, I'll try a few more S&W's, maybe I'll find one I like

Unfluted smiths are my favorite

AND THE WHEELS ON THE BUS GO ROUND AND ROUND.......  

Ooooooo! Look at the pretty butterfly!

Yeesh. My head hurts!

 

 

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Limited model mo' sorry

 

686 classic hunter model, 6 inch full lug, and unfluted cylinder is sessy

Are those extended cylinder latches available as an aftermarket part?  If so, from whom?  I've been unable to find them.

Are those extended cylinder latches available as an aftermarket part?  If so, from whom?  I've been unable to find them.

http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/safety-parts/safeties/s-w-revolver-extended-cylinder-release-latch-prod24622.aspx

$69!?!?!?

Yup, hogue makes them. Pricey but make all the diffrence in the world for speed reloads

Guess that's not for the casual shooter, eh?

Ooooooo! Look at the pretty butterfly!

Yeesh. My head hurts!

 

 

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      John, the butterflies are really pretty when they land in the snow.

 

And to think of all of the minty-used model 19's, 66's, etc. with 6" tubes out there in safe queen country.  With those buttery triggers right from the factory.  That can be had for less than a POS new...

Guess that's not for the casual shooter, eh?

NOPE, it's for a "SHOOTER OF KNOWN ABILITY"..........or anyone else that's really serious when they play gun games ON THE CLOCK.

Guess that's not for the casual shooter, eh?

I guess it's where you draw the line on affordable mods, I've probably got a 8-10 or so of the hogue extended releases in my safe on guns, If I need to do reloads on the clock it's on the gun, but regardless of that, it really improves the ergonomics of doing a reload,at least for me since I don't have to shift my grip to get to the stock release

It sounds like you've aPizza Bob has written out a pretty detailed post somewhere explaining the metallurgy between the rugers and the smiths, the reason why the ruger " feels " more solid, is because the ruger requires so much more metal in certain places to withstand pressures, so yes - it is thicker, and beefier, and it may give the impression that it is stronger. The smiths have a better casting process from what I understand.

 

Cast vs Forged....Rugers are investment cast. S&Ws are forged.  Ruger is also a big mfg of investment castings.  http://ruger.com/casting/index.html

http://www.brownells.com/handgun-parts/safety-parts/safeties/s-w-revolver-extended-cylinder-release-latch-prod24622.aspx

Thanks!

Wish they came in a blued finish, but at least I now know where to find one.

 

dafuk an "H&K Lover" care about a revolver thread? 

 

Or are you, em, coming out of the closet?

I never said I hate revolvers.... I've owned plenty of Colts and now a Uberti Cattleman... Prob is, this thread is like a bad sitcom repeat that won't go away. Plenty to see with results ending the same. lol... 3 pages of recommendations and still at ground zero... heh.

dafuk an "H&K Lover" care about a revolver thread? 

 

Or are you, em, coming out of the closet?

      John, the butterflies are really pretty when they land in the snow.

 

And to think of all of the minty-used model 19's, 66's, etc. with 6" tubes out there in safe queen country.  With those buttery triggers right from the factory.  That can be had for less than a POS new...

Remember when I asked you if the trigger on my Model 27 was indeed factory or "tuned"? As the owner of both a Smith and Taurus the differences out of the box is like night and day.

Remember when I asked you if the trigger on my Model 27 was indeed factory or "tuned"? As the owner of both a Smith and Taurus the differences out of the box is like night and day.

Duppie, I certainly do remember our conversation and also trying that lovely FACTORY trigger on your Model 27 at Old Bridge (during our BBQ).  I remember informing you that it could be smoothed and lightened some if you wished to get involved in Gun Games, and you said "no need" since you had no intention of doing so and LOVED it just as it was!  Yours is not the only example out there to be bought used or from a consignment sale in minty condition.  Shortly after our impromptu Grill and Shoot, I bumped into a similar example with the same minty look.  If not for paying-off hospital bills I would have jumped on it!  It would fit very well in the holster I already own and serve me well next to my Model 29 that I've had since November of '79!

 

If one has a $700-$800 budget for a revolver, IMHO (and yours, lol) you can't go wrong buying a mint-used Smith and you might even be able to buy LOTS of ammo to feed it too (for the same price mentioned)!  Your Model 27 is a 100 yard gun in an Expert's hands....

 

When the weather breaks and I can see the stones in the parking lot, let's make another BBQ day!  Take care my friend!

 

Dave

Thanks!

Wish they came in a blued finish, but at least I now know where to find one.

 

they do.

 

http://www.hogueinc.com/store/products/sampw-short-cylinder-release-stainless-steel-blued/6395

if you want to change it up a bit, ever think about a single six..

 

http://www.ruger.com/products/newModelSingleSix/index.html?r=y

Duppie, I certainly do remember our conversation and also trying that lovely FACTORY trigger on your Model 27 at Old Bridge (during our BBQ).  I remember informing you that it could be smoothed and lightened some if you wished to get involved in Gun Games, and you said "no need" since you had no intention of doing so and LOVED it just as it was!  Yours is not the only example out there to be bought used or from a consignment sale in minty condition.  Shortly after our impromptu Grill and Shoot, I bumped into a similar example with the same minty look.  If not for paying-off hospital bills I would have jumped on it!  It would fit very well in the holster I already own and serve me well next to my Model 29 that I've had since November of '79!

 

If one has a $700-$800 budget for a revolver, IMHO (and yours, lol) you can't go wrong buying a mint-used Smith and you might even be able to buy LOTS of ammo to feed it too (for the same price mentioned)!  Your Model 27 is a 100 yard gun in an Expert's hands....

 

When the weather breaks and I can see the stones in the parking lot, let's make another BBQ day!  Take care my friend!

 

Dave

....You're on.....I'll bring the Kabobs.

if you want to change it up a bit, ever think about a single six..

 

http://www.ruger.com/products/newModelSingleSix/index.html?r=y

Thanks Tony, I already have one, great gun and I was thinking about another SA but I think one is enough........... for now