next to go will be 7.62x54r...bet $ on that

Just make sure we DONT COMPLY.

 

 

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next to go will be 7.62x54r...bet $ on that

 

x54r isn't chambered in handguns so we should be okay with that for now. There are rumors from Black Horse Arsenal, but just photoshop.

 

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/01/foghorn/will-bhas-new-7-62x54r-pistol-mean-the-end-of-7-62x54r-ammo-imports/

 

There really isn't much else to "go". Every firearm model or caliber that can be imported into this country in any large quantity has already been imported or has been banned. 

 

I'm happy I bought a crate while the going was good. Not fantastic, but good. 

how can you NOT comply if the item is no longer sold?

It'll still be legal to own?

 

 

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x54r isn't chambered in handguns so we should be okay with that for now.

Care to take this statement back?

 

 

Unless an Obrez is considered an SBR?

 

As long as no one starts a letter writing campaign to the ATF, we're probably going to be ok on 7.62x54r.

 

Obrez is an SBR. Also not commercially available at that

next to go will be 7.62x54r...bet $ on that

HEY! gimmee back those cans man! lol

Picking up cans but I have a limit. I think it's gonna be gone soon

 

Is there any ammo left! I bet Shawn bought it all up! How much did you get?

Care to take this statement back? Unless an Obrez is considered an SBR? As long as no one starts a letter writing campaign to the ATF, we're probably going to be ok on 7.62x54r.

Not a semi-auto.

Not a semi-auto.

True, didn't know that was part of their criteria for banned handgun ammunition. Thanks. Apparently it's an SBR anyway.

Is there any ammo left! I bet Shawn bought it all up! How much did you get?

I bought 20,000 rounds of .22 and a couple thousand rounds of green tip. It's being rationed to the dealers now. I can try again next week.

I need to buy me (or make...) one of these when I escape NJ. 

 

True, didn't know that was part of their criteria for banned handgun ammunition. Thanks.

 

 

It's not.

 

I need to buy me (or make...) one of these when I escape NJ. 

 

 

AOW - have an SOT make it for you. Pay him $50 to chop it and you only pay a $5 tax stamp

Well let's put this into perspective

 

Today I was able to get .22lr but not green tip

(Wholesale)

Crap,

 

        Just paid .62 cents per round for 240 rounds for M855! I don't need it but just so I can say I got some!!!

It is still available but it is not cheap for sure! I hate gougers!!! As pointed out, I can't use it at the range so it will live in my ammo safe

forever probably.

Hey I'm just showing the crystal ball. What's on the shelfs is there. But after that who knows

Meh - ordered a little more M855 just in case.... Wideners has Federal Lake City M855 for a decent price.  About 37c/round after shipping

https://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=100001628&dir=

Wow! It went up almost double in less than 2 weeks!!!! Guess I should have got some sooner!

I bought 20,000 rounds of .22 and a couple thousand rounds of green tip. It's being rationed to the dealers now. I can try again next week.

Shawn,

            Who has .22s in stock? Especially 20,000?

I did for 3 hours. One guy on here got a 5,000 round case off me

 

This is the only .22 I have now

Not really a surprise considering they banned 7n6 only a few months ago for the same reason.  I wonder if the 7n6 ban was a test run for the m855 or if someone pointed out that m855 bullet had the same non-armor piercing make up as the non-armor piercing 7n6 bullets that are now classified as AP?  I picked up 300 rounds of m855 from Dicks for $100 with their coupon and now the same stuff 2 weeks later is more than twice that if you can find it.  Pretty sad.  

They will just keep banning if not challanged. Its a foot in the door just like so many other laws that are for "the public good"

There is allot to be said for hoarders I guess. Things are not going to get better anytime soon. Congress lack guts as its constructed now.

Yup. I pulled my green tip. It's not MY stash

Most comprehensive writeup I've seen yet on this situation, including history of how the ATF has twisted the "armor piercing" designation previously for other calibers:

 

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/02/robert-farago/atf-ban-on-m855-ammunition-the-real-issue-and-the-real-answer/

The ATF was beaten back on another bogus interpretation of their rules early last year; ATF ruled that a muzzle device was a "silencer" without even investigating if it lowered the sound of shots.

 

The manufacturer sued the ATF, won, and got their interpretation overturned.  I wonder if an ammo manufacturer can follow the same path...:

 

http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/03/20/66348.htm

The ATF was beaten back on another bogus interpretation of their rules early last year; ATF ruled that a muzzle device was a "silencer" without even investigating if it lowered the sound of shots.

 

The manufacturer sued the ATF, won, and got their interpretation overturned. I wonder if an ammo manufacturer can follow the same path...:

 

http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/03/20/66348.htm

Good question!?

 

 

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The ATF was beaten back on another bogus interpretation of their rules early last year; ATF ruled that a muzzle device was a "silencer" without even investigating if it lowered the sound of shots.

 

The manufacturer sued the ATF, won, and got their interpretation overturned.  I wonder if an ammo manufacturer can follow the same path...:

 

http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/03/20/66348.htm

 

Doesn't seem liike the ammo manufacturers are hurt by this.  They can easily re-tool to use a different bullet or might be able to source bullets that fit the existing machinery.   The ban on imports will mean less competition, higher prices, and more sales.  It's a win for domestic manufacturers.

Doesn't seem liike the ammo manufacturers are hurt by this.  They can easily re-tool to use a different bullet or might be able to source bullets that fit the existing machinery.   The ban on imports will mean less competition, higher prices, and more sales.  It's a win for domestic manufacturers.

 

Domestic manufacturers are already running at full capacity and don't have issues selling off their production.  Less competition and higher prices hurts all of us.