http://www.store.silencerco.com/products/easytrust/

 

They claim it's 50 state legal and send you everything you need to start a trust. I'm interested in more info.

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you can have a trust in nj. you can even transfer your guns to the trust. you cannot however have NFA items in nj.

What is the point of having a NJ NFA trust if you cannot own such items in NJ?

What is the point of having a NJ NFA trust if you cannot own such items in NJ?

You can't but the trust can.

You can't but the trust can.

 

 

how? NJ does not allow an exception for an NFA trust to own such a thing... it says "this item is illegal".. that does not by default mean that it is illegal for a person to have.. but legal for a trust or a business to have? you can certainly create a trust in NJ.. but that does not supersede firearms law as far as I am aware.. 

 

c. Silencers. Any person who knowingly has in his possession any firearm silencer is guilty of a crime of the fourth degree.

 

so even if you hypothetically got one under a trust.. YOU... or ANY other person within the state of NJ could never be in possession of it..

 

and that does not even address the fact that I dont know any dealer that would be willing to do the transfer..

IINAL, but the other day, for whatever reason, I was looking up SBR and SBS laws for NJ. Both are illegal, however, If I read correctly, apparently machine guns ARE legal.

 

Someone should confirm that, or if there aren't some restrictions where you can have it, but only if you're a cop, or something like that.

Yes. Machineguns are legal to possess in NJ. You just need to get a permit. Just like the NJ carry permit that everyone has.

I am not aware of any law that says NFA is illegal in Jersey. I know that some of the items are addressed under NJ law, and some are not.

 

It seems many types of AOW would be legal. With a trust you would not need LEO signoff (for the next few months at least). I saw another thread that claimed you can't find an SOT to make you one or transfer you one. I bet you could. Regardless, you could probably file a Form 1 with the ATF make one yourself. I know, I know, "You can't make your own gun in NJ!" Well, can you change your shotgun barrel from 26 inches to 22 inches? Of course. So... If you legally own a firearm in NJ, and change it to a configuration that is not regulated under NJ law but is under the NFA, and you comply with the NFA, then I have to assume that would be fine. I'm just not sure which AOW configurations are not covered under NJ law.

 

And, I'm not going to look into it and certainly not the guy to ask.

As far as NJSP Firearms Investigation Unit is concerned a Gun Trust will not be recognized. As per Lieutenant Genova and Detective Sergeant Bloom.

You can own any Class III that is in the closed registry. It just entails an NFA transfer and $$$$.

$$$$ because the closed registry owners know their "registered" items are severely limited in supply.

 

As far as NJSP Firearms Investigation Unit is concerned a Gun Trust will not be recognized. As per Lieutenant Genova and Detective Sergeant Bloom.

 

 

 

Good for him. Nobody is asking him or cares what he thinks. If I have a New Jersey legal firearm then I am not even going to mention my gun trust to him. Because it's none of his business.

 

You can own any Class III that is in the closed registry. It just entails an NFA transfer and $$$$.

 

 

 

$$$$ because the closed registry owners know their "registered" items are severely limited in supply.

 

 

Oh really?

 

What kind of "Class III" can I own if it is in the closed registry in Jersey and I am willing to pay the money?

Are you seriously asking me that?

Are you seriously asking me that?

Yes.

 

What kind of "Class III" can I own if it is in the closed registry in Jersey and I am willing to pay the money?

 

SBR?

 

SBS?

 

Silencers?

 

Machineguns?

 

Destructive Devices?

 

Explosive Destructive Devices?

 

What can I buy in Jersey if I put up the money. Per your claim.

MGS and certain AOWs.

 

But what is a "closed registry"?

 

Rare Brazilian Portative Hotchkiss Machine Gun 7mm

7mm Mauser Early Serial # 8 Class III NFA Form 3

Auction # 468418841

I am not aware of any law that says NFA is illegal in Jersey. I know that some of the items are addressed under NJ law, and some are not.

 

It seems many types of AOW would be legal. With a trust you would not need LEO signoff (for the next few months at least). I saw another thread that claimed you can't find an SOT to make you one or transfer you one. I bet you could. Regardless, you could probably file a Form 1 with the ATF make one yourself. I know, I know, "You can't make your own gun in NJ!" Well, can you change your shotgun barrel from 26 inches to 22 inches? Of course. So... If you legally own a firearm in NJ, and change it to a configuration that is not regulated under NJ law but is under the NFA, and you comply with the NFA, then I have to assume that would be fine. I'm just not sure which AOW configurations are not covered under NJ law.

 

And, I'm not going to look into it and certainly not the guy to ask.

SBR, SBS and suppressors are all banned outright under NJ law, even dealers who paid the SOT cannot deal in them or possess them.

Not machine guns

You could even get an old Vickers!

Thompson sub full auto

MGS and certain AOWs.But what is a "closed registry"?

 

That has always been an elusive one!

You could even get an old Vickers!

You need to have a NJ carry license before you are able to get a NJ MG license. You will need a Superior Court judge to sign off on your MG license and IIRC the sign off of the CLEO of each town you will be traveling through with your MG. So, technically there is a statutory process  that you can go through to get a NJ MG license, but in reality it's never going to happen........

SBR, SBS and suppressors are all banned outright under NJ law, even dealers who paid the SOT cannot deal in them or possess them.

This is like a child telling me the sky is blue.

 

I said AOWs, and you actually quoted what I said.

Dude's completely on crack.

 

I think he is referring to the 1986 Hughes Amendment. His comments have nothing to do with Title II ownership in Jersey. Which was obvious from the beginning.

There is way too much retardation in here.

 

Please get a mod in here to straighten this up. These idiots are going to confuse people looking for information on these issues.

What are you saying? You cannot buy a MG under any circumstance in NJ? No crack over here sorry to say!

There is way too much retardation in here.

 

Please get a mod in here to straighten this up. These idiots are going to confuse people looking for information on these issues.

You should never belittle anyone by calling them an idiot.