I know nothing about what's happening but I know that nothing every happens in the time frame that it was planned.   2 weeks usually means 5 - and it's not always anybody's fault other than the guy who was optimistic in his estimate.

I know nothing about what's happening but I know that nothing every happens in the time frame that it was planned.   2 weeks usually means 5 - and it's not always anybody's fault other than the guy who was optimistic in his estimate.

well wouldn't it be nice if the dude would pop in here, and take the 15 seconds it takes to update us? especially considering that the timing was weird, and many of us were somewhat suspicious of them to begin with?

......or maybe with all the negativity around here, he said screw yaz.... Did you bother looking at their website for updates? They constantly post stuff.

 

 

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......or maybe with all the negativity around here, he said screw yaz.... Did you bother looking at their website for updates? They constantly post stuff.

 

 

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yup- just a few mouse clicks away....

unless i'm missing it(and i may well be), the most recent thing i see under sappa in there is the same thing i'd read a few weeks ago.

I this link dated for 3-28 is their case!!! I have not read it yet though. http://nebula.wsimg.com/2e395142c055c0de532c4abf0fe153c2?AccessKeyId=3221A0C50080D1C903B6&disposition=0&alloworigin=1

An awful lot of time and research went into this one! I ran a Google search on his name 'NICHOLAS E. PURPURA' and it seems his whole life has been spent suing everyone about everything!!!

Thats some wild stuff. Looks good to me. I cant even imagine how long that took to put together.

I expect Purpura to mysteriously disappear from the face of the earth once this petition is served, likely at the hands of an elite NJSP squad.

I haven't read the whole document, but I think I get the general idea. His claims are probably correct.

 

Here's the problem. This state's judiciary is stacked with activist liberals. Not one of them will respond to this by saying ..."Ya got us!! You win!!"

 

No, their response will be "How do we squash this? It may be correct. But we don't care. It will kill our agenda. So we will just squash it."

 

They did exactly that when Lautenberg was illegally put on the ballot after Torricelli withdrew. The NJ Supreme Court ruled that he could be on the ballot. Despite the fact that it was in clear violation of election law in NJ.

 

So if this has merit, it will be squashed by some obscure procedure. After that, there is no legal recourse. It's why Obama has been appointing judges at breakneck pace.

I expect Purpura to mysteriously disappear from the face of the earth once this petition is served, likely at the hands of an elite NJSP squad.

If this were his first lawsuit or one of a handful, I would agree with you. But based on the number of times his name has appeared on suits of this type, I now have doubts.

My guess is it will be thrown out based on a technicality! I don't see Christy and the AG of NJ in a jury trial!!!

I think this person is the author of this lawsuit.

 

 

I have to say I respect this guy's determination.

I haven't read the whole document, but I think I get the general idea. His claims are probably correct.

 

Here's the problem. This state's judiciary is stacked with activist liberals. Not one of them will respond to this by saying ..."Ya got us!! You win!!"

 

No, their response will be "How do we squash this? It may be correct. But we don't care. It will kill our agenda. So we will just squash it."

 

They did exactly that when Lautenberg was illegally put on the ballot after Torricelli withdrew. The NJ Supreme Court ruled that he could be on the ballot. Despite the fact that it was in clear violation of election law in NJ.

 

So if this has merit, it will be squashed by some obscure procedure. After that, there is no legal recourse. It's why Obama has been appointing judges at breakneck pace.

 

Yup. It's unfortunate to have no faith in the system but the judges were all bought a long time ago.

I can see the states response to this now "Thankyou for letting us know your concerns. Your opinion is valuable to us. Please stay on hold untill the next judge who gives a shit gets back to you"...........................................

well, if it's been filed, then mayhaps those from this board that were at that meeting can enlighten the rest of us then? i seem to recall someone saying that they would as soon as it was filed......

......or maybe with all the negativity around here, he said screw yaz.... Did you bother looking at their website for updates? They constantly post stuff.

 

 

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+1,000,000.  This forum is extremely negative to any new voices.  I don't see why anyone would waste the time writing updates when they are attacked from the very beginning.

+1,000,000.  This forum is extremely negative to any new voices.  I don't see why anyone would waste the time writing updates when they are attacked from the very beginning.

possibly due to the fact that it would convince people?

 

 so far, it seems that the only thing it did, was to set a couple members here off kilter. i'm simply asking for an update.....and as i mentioned, unless i'm missing the section, there's no fresh updates on their site.......

Hey you just gotta realize this is new jersey. Were skeptical of anything. Nothing personal. Just business. Its true. We can be rude. But if we like you. Well do anything for you. Its the nj attitude. Unlike other us areas where they will be pleasant to your face and f u when you turn around.

+1,000,000. This forum is extremely negative to any new voices. I don't see why anyone would waste the time writing updates when they are attacked from the very beginning.

There were some negative opinions of what little we could learn about his plan, but there were also some that had a positive opinion. Seems like most people here posted that it was good that someone was doing something, but were holding their expectations to a minimum. As was just said.... It's New Jersey.... You're guilty until proven innocent when it comes to firearms. Seriously... That's the way it works.

 

Plus, if someone is that motivated to do stuff like he is doing, he has to be able to take a little heat. God knows the shit he'll get from the antis will be far worse than anything he might see here.

 

But..... It seems like there's no new info on this. Hopefully we'll hear something. Curious how it will be great by our esteemed judicial branch.

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I'll read it on my break at work. If NJ tries to squash it, can it be appealed to the federal level?

I this link dated for 3-28 is their case!!! I have not read it yet though. http://nebula.wsimg.com/2e395142c055c0de532c4abf0fe153c2?AccessKeyId=3221A0C50080D1C903B6&disposition=0&alloworigin=1

 

 

Well I was right in that it is going down the RICO road. HOwever, unless he can shop it to a judge with an axe to grind, it will simply be denied as anything else puts judicial and executive branch in legal peril due to how the RICO laws work. While there may be something to the content by the letter of the law, structuring the conspiracy accusations ina  way that logically has to include SCOTUS and expecting the chain of courts to eventually go oops, you caught us, is kind of naive 

I'll read it on my break at work. If NJ tries to squash it, can it be appealed to the federal level?

 

Their strategy is to bypass the NJ courts, since they realize there is no hope there, and go directly to the federal level.

Their strategy is to bypass the NJ courts, since they realize there is no hope there, and go directly to the federal level.

 

Except they also named the federal courts as part of the conspiracy. So....

mmmuuuussstttt.......not..........don......tinfoil HAT!!!!

An awful lot of time and research went into this one! I ran a Google search on his name 'NICHOLAS E. PURPURA' and it seems his whole life has been spent suing everyone about everything!!!

 

This looks like the work of a rank amatuer and not the work of a serious litigant let alone an attorney, IMHO. 

This looks like the work of a rank amatuer and not the work of a serious litigant let alone an attorney, IMHO.

If not him, then whom? You my good sir?

I wish him luck. He has made the correct arguments against NJ law. 

The legal world moves at a snail's pace, most folks here don't want to admit this. Look at how the "other side" has worked for years on things like gun control, gay marriage, disability rights, polygamy, animal rights. They work it one little step at a time and continue to chip away until the edifice falls.   The correct view of the legal angle is glacial, not fun, won't help you buy a full-auto M14 next month, but it is the long game.

 

Now, legislatively you can make more moves quickly, but that requires a whole different set of effort that the 2A community finds hard to implement in states like NJ.....

 

All the NRA haters forget they are in for the long haul, but they also let other folks like SAF do the lifting in court (strategically a good idea if you think about it)

has this been filed yet?