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Second Amendment Preservation and Protection Act (SAPPA)

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  • There was a development that created the need to contact the Circuit Court of Appeals. We can't tell you more than that now.  Hope you understand. But know this, there have been significant things h

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anything happening on this yet?

Only Posts 155 thru 159......

 

Other than that, nothing new has been heard.

  • 2 weeks later...
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Dear Forum Members,

For all those interested in the status of the Brief which has been discussed in this forum, here is an update:

This past week the Brief was filed with the Federal District Court in Trenton.  This afternoon Mr. Purpura was notified that the filing has been accepted and a docket number issued and the case has been assigned to a Federal Judge.

 

Also the complete list of defendants have been served and provided with the full documentation which includes the brief which will be called Nicholas E. Purpura v Governor Chris Christie, et al.   Those served include Governor Christie, the New Jersey Attorney General, the Firearms director, several state and local judges and over 30 lawmakers.

 

The entire Brief including the 19 associated Exhibits can be seen and downloaded from the SAPPA Group web pages.  Also the Press Release which will begin to go out to media outlets tomorrow can be seen there as well.  Please note that the contact phone numbers for Mr. Purpura have been x'd out on the website document.  That was done to prevent his number appearing in open source.

 

If anyone in this forum would like to help get this Press Release out to their favorite media (if there is such a thing) please contact me at [email protected]   Please give me a contact number so we can call you.  We will then give you a link where the unobscured Press Release can be downloaded and then sent to the media.

 

Here is the link to the SAPPA Group web page.  http://www.tpath.org/sappa.html

 

I wish to take this time to thank all those in this forum who have come to our meetings and/or have offered to help.  The following few months will see our group working every aspect of publicity we can.  Any help from anyone here would be so appreciated.

 

Let's Rock and Roll,

Dwight Kehoe

SAPPA GroupCCPLAWSUIT 12.pdf

www.tpath.org

 

THE SAPPA GROUP for webpage.pdf

This needs to be spread to our fellow pro2a groups throughout the country especially Iowa and New Hampshire where our current anti2a governor is trying to make his pitch for the white house,  someone needs to ask the governor on a national forum while he's pissing away our tax dollars in these states why he should be given consideration as a potential republican candidate for president when he is a party to a federal civil rights lawsuit which denies American citizens in his home their RIGHT to bear arms and why he has not done ONE SINGLE THING to bring NJ into compliance with the Constitution since becoming governor. In fact he has actively fought with the anti 2a (anti-American) crowd during his tenure.  One question that should be asked is: "Why did you order the NJAG to fight the recent justifiable need case known as Drake v Jerejian rather than order him bring NJ into compliance"    second question: " Why are you currently fighting the latest lawsuit Purpura v you!"   This needs to be asked on a national level and fellow pro2a groups need to be aware of his antigun attitude.    Even if he were to be elected president keep in mind he thinks NJ is special and we still wouldn't get our rights back. 

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An update on the progress of The SAPPA Group

We were asked to create a one page document  that would describe what SAPPA is and the intent of the Federal Brief which was filed in Trenton last week.  Click on the link below to read or download that document

 

http://nebula.wsimg.com/c5d4825b848c885826e77e1989fa1e86?AccessKeyId=3221A0C50080D1C903B6&disposition=0&alloworigin=1

 

 

Click here for the latest news related to this effort.

http://www.tpath.org/sappa.html

 

 

 

Personal expenses are growing.  Here is a request for help.

http://www.tpath.org/sappa-donate-page.html

 

 

The next step will be the much anticipated Court hearing after the defendants provide the court with their replies.

 

Thanks everyone,

Dwight

SAPPA Group

www.tpath.org

 

 

Sounds great. Thanks for the heads up....

 

 

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Sounds great. Thanks for the heads up....

 

 

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Not really.

 

What they say will happen:

 

1) Go to federal court, either win and loser appeal to 3rd circuit, or lose and appeal to 3rd circuit. 

2) lose at 3rd circuit. 

3) go to SCOTUS for the win. 

 

What will likely happen:

1) Go to federal court,  lose and appeal to 3rd circuit. 

2) lose at 3rd circuit. 

3) go to SCOTUS and have them refuse to hear the case. 

 

About the only thing it does that is new and guaranteed is bring RICO into it, which means that if the defendants can be taken to court three times, they all have to live in peril of those in power deciding they want to go and seize all their assets without anything resembling due process.

 

I'm all for someone else bankrolling it to give it a shot, but I'm pretty reluctant to call their legal reasoning sound unless their end goal is to simply demonstrate that signing on to a party platform plank as a no questions asked party line voter (i.e. not a true believer)  comes with the peril of having to defend against lawsuits like this. Even that won't pan out if the federal court simply summarily dismisses the case. If it actually gets heard though, there's the implicit threat that it can be dragged as far as the guy suing you wants to pay for. 

someone please tell me that the lawyers fees for the 36 defendants is not funded by the taxpayers/us.

someone please tell me that the lawyers fees for the 36 defendants is not funded by the taxpayers/us.

It is one way or the other considering we pay their salary through our taxes. Since they don't actually do any work that benefits us, I consider the money they earn in their salaries as stolen from the taxpayers. How ever you want to look at it were paying for it if they're personally reaching into their own pockets for our money (they claim to have earned), or having the state write the check to the lawyers directly. We're funding their defense directly or indirectly. Won't bother them, they'll just steal more of our money to compensate...

 

3) go to SCOTUS and have them refuse to hear the case.

 

I'm not a legal expert but Why would scotus refuse to hear the case.

Where can one find "Exibit 1" to see the complete list of defendants.

 

just found it disregard above

 

 

 

I'm not a legal expert but Why would scotus refuse to hear the case.

Because they hear very few cases annually, they like to pick and choose what they believe is "important" and what's not. 2nd amendment cases are toxic for them most times. It draws heavy criticism from the left. They seem to care what the left thinks of them unfortunately.

 

 

  • 1 month later...

Received an update from them this morning. I'll try to post it within the next day or so. Not really much happening, but the motion has been filed, court fees of $400 have been demanded and paid, and the courts are considering it (or, sitting on it, trying to figure out how to dismiss it, for the skeptical).

I like the approach this group is taking, but perhaps have Dan "The Original Hater" do some proofreading, and tone down the language.

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Hi All,

I'm sorry that I have not been back here as often as I would like to keep those interested up to date on the progress of our Brief.

 

We have created a chronicalized log of occurrences for the over 100 SAPPA support group members and have decided to share that log with the NJ Gun Forum.  So if anyone is interested in  what's been going on  click the link.

 

http://www.tpath.org/sappa-news-and-reports.html

 

Warm regards to all our friends here in the forum.

 

Dwight and Nick

  • 1 month later...
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The SAPPA Group has been very busy dealing with New Jersey officials, court clerks and attorneys.

 

I promised many of you here in the Gun Forum to keep you up to date on the progress of our Brief. 

 

Here is link where you can follow chronologically the events and filings. This log is updated as events occur.

 

http://www.tpath.org/sappa-news-and-reports.html

 

Thanks everyone, keep up the good fight.

 

Regards,

Dwight

www.tpath.org

 

NOTE:

As you read the log linked above keep in mind that the Motion of Default which will be filed with the Court on Thursday will be made available for all to read or download after it is received and sealed by the Court.

  

Once you get to  read it you will see that Mr. Purpura pretty much has these people backing into a corner.  No Judge ever wants to be on the side of a case which is overturned.  Mr. Purpura, in the Motion for Default has given the Court a way out.  That is that the Judge could wash his hands of this and order the case moved to the Third Circuit.  

 

That is of course what we intended and if the Judge does it, we will not need to file a new Brief for the Circuit Court.  The District Court Brief will be the one of record.  Remember, our ultimate goal is to get to the US Supreme Court as quickly as possible.

 

If the case gets heard there, it will be very difficult for those Justices, even the liberal ones, to rule against us because we support much of our case on rulings made by those very same liberal Justices.

 

Thanks

Dwight

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