I'm gonna agree with DeerSlayer and suggest the KSG.  I just picked one up a couple of weeks ago, and love it.  The short length, plus the capacity make it pretty hard to beat for home defense.  The only downside is the price.

I'm gonna agree with DeerSlayer and suggest the KSG.  I just picked one up a couple of weeks ago, and love it.  The short length, plus the capacity make it pretty hard to beat for home defense.  The only downside is the price.

 

If you dont mind me asking, what did you pay for it?

If you dont mind me asking, what did you pay for it?

Around $800 for mine.

Same as DeerSlayer.

How does it cycle? The promo video I saw a while back had a LEO firing it, and it seemed as if it wasn't a very smooth action.

How does it cycle? The promo video I saw a while back had a LEO firing it, and it seemed as if it wasn't a very smooth action.

Once they break in their fine. I've seen a few videos where guys are having problems with cheap low brass birdshot, in brand new guns. A lot of the problems I see come from short stroking the forearm.

 

hmmmm

Once they break in their fine. I've seen a few videos where guys are having problems with cheap low brass birdshot, in brand new guns. A lot of the problems I see come from short stroking the forearm.

Do you have a vertical foregrip on it?

Do you have a vertical foregrip on it?

Went with the Magpul angled like i have on a few of my AR's. They feel comfortable to me.

Okay thanks.

No problems with pain when using that angled foregrip?  I put a AFG on my 870 Tac w/ Magpul furniture etc. ... someone on this very forum said they tried and hated it, very painful when shooting... I thought, yeah right, that's not going to be a problem...

 

....sure as sugar by the end of the first mag-full of shells, I hated it .  Really uncomfortable upon firing and not a big benefit for pumping, and the more i shot the more it got worse to become particularly painful on the hand.  After 25 or so rounds, I literally went to the desk and borrowed a screwdriver to remove the damned thing.

 

Just wondering if it's not a problem on the KSG or you just don't mind it etc?

No problems with pain when using that angled foregrip? I put a AFG on my 870 Tac w/ Magpul furniture etc. ... someone on this very forum said they tried and hated it, very painful when shooting... I thought, yeah right, that's not going to be a problem...

 

....sure as sugar by the end of the first mag-full of shells, I hated it . Really uncomfortable upon firing and not a big benefit for pumping, and the more i shot the more it got worse to become particularly painful on the hand. After 25 or so rounds, I literally went to the desk and borrowed a screwdriver to remove the damned thing.

 

Just wondering if it's not a problem on the KSG or you just don't mind it etc?

I haven't shot it yet since I installed it. I may hate it too. I have a vertical in my tote full of AR/AK spare parts. Maybe I'll bring that and a screwdriver with me next time I go shoot it, now that you mentioned it sucks on the hand. Thanks for the imput. Definitely a recoil difference from a 5.56 cartridge to a 12g shell. I can totally see that thing smacking the side of my hand, and being painful on the KSG.

 

There are real downsides to the KSG, specially when you start adding grips to it. 

 

Like this down side: http://thegunwriter.blogs.heraldtribune.com/19139/another-devastating-kel-tec-ksg-injury/

 

That's like the third accident I've read about. 

 

I'm not saying the gun itself is unsafe, I'm saying please be carefully how you kit it out and how you use it. 

That is a real concern with any SBS. We have 14" Remington 870s at work. I have to stay right on top of some of my folks during qualifications and training. Especially with people new to our agency that are used to standard length shotguns.

 

I can't imagine with these bullpup shotguns, they seem to be even more compact, putting the muzzle well within the reach of your extended arm.

There are real downsides to the KSG, specially when you start adding grips to it.

 

Like this down side: http://thegunwriter.blogs.heraldtribune.com/19139/another-devastating-kel-tec-ksg-injury/

 

That's like the third accident I've read about.

 

I'm not saying the gun itself is unsafe, I'm saying please be carefully how you kit it out and how you use it.

Ok so now I'm afraid to shoot it! No way I'm going through the rest of my life with the knick name "Tripod" because my left hand only has 3 fingers on it. I just ordered a hand stop. Think I'm going to stipple the forearm as well.

That wasn't really my intent, but .. ok.   Just you know .. mind your hands with short weapons

That wasn't really my intent, but .. ok. Just you know .. mind your hands with short weapons

Thanks, I never really thought about this possibility before. Good to know it can happen if compliancy sets in.

Thanks, I never really thought about this possibility before. Good to know it can happen if compliancy sets in.

 

I never really thought about that at first either, once it was brought up...well now we know. Good tip and great advice!

http://s1081.photobucket.com/user/Budasac/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150314_082529329.jpg.html

 

What a beauty!

 

Try this again. Sorry for the dupe

There is something i've been struggling with when it comes to HD shotguns.  I'm sure that most of you have kids.  How do you safely store a shotgun at the same time have easy access?  It's not as simple as a night stand safe.

There is something i've been struggling with when it comes to HD shotguns. I'm sure that most of you have kids. How do you safely store a shotgun at the same time have easy access? It's not as simple as a night stand safe.

Hand gun in safe under bed. Shot gun in big safe.

Hand gun is what you use to get to big gun.

 

Or you could trigger lock the long gun ....

I went with a double barrel coach gun.

There's a lot to recommend this approach. My HD SG is an O/U. If you have to deal with an intruder, IMO it's unlikely that more than 2 rounds will be required before one of you is dead. If a prosecutor thinks he can make some political points by keel hauling you, he'll show the gun to the grand jury. I saw this when I had grand jury. The scarier looking the gun is to Jersey twits the more likely you are to be indicted.

 

Try this again. Sorry for the dupe

Very cool.

What a beauty!

Thanks! I actually bought it as a project a little while back. It was pretty neglected by the previous owner. I refinished the wood, touched up the barrels, and made a few necessary repairs. I'm pretty happy with how it turned out.

 

There is something i've been struggling with when it comes to HD shotguns. I'm sure that most of you have kids. How do you safely store a shotgun at the same time have easy access? It's not as simple as a night stand safe.

Something like this would be pretty cool.

 

Something like this would be pretty cool.

 

Tactical Walls (http://tacticalwalls.com) are awesome. I just wish they weren't so expensive....

 

Shotlock (http://www.shotlock.com/ShotLock_Shotgun.php) makes a neat setup for a shotgun.

Tactical Walls (http://tacticalwalls.com) are awesome. I just wish they weren't so expensive....

 

Shotlock (http://www.shotlock.com/ShotLock_Shotgun.php) makes a neat setup for a shotgun.

Got the shot lock for the ar. It fits my needs very well. Good product.

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590 or KSG...That article says they came with a hand stop? Neither of the ones I purchased had one in the box.

I have seriously started to consider a coach from stoeger. theyre so badass and such a nice looking gun.