I have been following politics for 40 years. I've watched dozens of debates. What I witnessed last night was one of the most despicable showings ever for three serious candidates. 

 

I was 100% pro-Trump a couple of months ago, primarily due to his stance on immigration. By the time we turned off the spectacle last night I'd had it with him. He's a boorish, vulgar, vain, bullying megalomaniac with no knowledge of the major issues. Since when does a candidate call his rivals liars multiple times on a national stage? Is this the presidency or 3rd grade?

 

Trump's talking points have become so predictable you wonder if he's getting bored himself. Not a single nuanced answer to any question, no evidence that he's actually put in the time to study the big issues.

 

The other two were barely more professional as they gobbled up every piece of bait Squirrel-Head threw at them. The shouting and over-shouting and interruption -- they reminded me of the Three Tenors of Burp Opera.

 

I'm hoping for a miracle and Kasich somehow slips through. He's the only candidate on either side with any semblance of accomplishment. No he's not going to build a wall and have 24/7 one-way bus service from American cities to Mexico. News Alert: Neither will Trump.

 

Carson is of course out of his league. They other three can jump into a river.

 

Every 4 years I tell myself it can't possibly get worse, and every four years it does.

 

I don't understand why these debates have become part audience participation either.  It used to be they would allow clapping when the candidates came out, and after closing remarks, but the audience was told not to make any sounds during the debate.  I also don't get the crap that "he said my name so I get to talk more".  That is not the way you run a debate.  Then there is the interruptions and the candidates that go way over their time limit.  Why don't they just turn off everyone's mic when it is not their turn and turn off the speakers mic say five seconds after the buzzer goes off.  That would make for a much better discussion.

I never trusted Trump, and Cruz is too right for me on other issues. I thought Rubio might be worth looking at but at this point idk. I don't know if any of them can beat HRC in the general

 

 

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I have been following politics for 40 years. I've watched dozens of debates. What I witnessed last night was one of the most despicable showings ever for three serious candidates. 

 

I was 100% pro-Trump a couple of months ago, primarily due to his stance on immigration. By the time we turned off the spectacle last night I'd had it with him. He's a boorish, vulgar, vain, bullying megalomaniac with no knowledge of the major issues. Since when does a candidate call his rivals liars multiple times on a national stage? Is this the presidency or 3rd grade?

 

Trump's talking points have become so predictable you wonder if he's getting bored himself. Not a single nuanced answer to any question, no evidence that he's actually put in the time to study the big issues.

Been like that forever. He's a pompous, thin skinned little baby. Welcome to the club.

 

I never trusted Trump, and Cruz is too right for me on other issues. I thought Rubio might be worth looking at but at this point idk. I don't know if any of them can beat HRC in the general

 

 

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What is "too right"? That he is very religious? I don't care much for that, but as far as I'm concerned, he's the only one to give a damn about the Constitution and what the gov'ts role is supposed to be.

OMG is it me or did Rubio hire a professional screecher? One person immediately screeched after every Rubio response. After awhile it got very annoying. Plus Rubio debate diction was too much like Pee-Wee Herman's "I know you are but what am I."

The field was too large to begin with. Fiorina, Christie, and Carson had no earthly chance. 

 

They should limit the first series of debates to six candidates and follow strict rules about apportioning questions. Kasich and Carson were pretty much treated like doggie-doo. 

 

I also like the idea of turning off their microphones. 

The field was too large to begin with. Fiorina, Christie, and Carson had no earthly chance.

 

They should limit the first series of debates to six candidates and follow strict rules about apportioning questions. Kasich and Carson were pretty much treated like doggie-doo.

 

I also like the idea of turning off their microphones.

They turned mics off here in Trenton during the public hearings. It worked BUT if the questions were cute kids or females, they let them play.

It should be adhered to the second for everyone.

 

Personally, I try not to watch this crap anymore. I am fooking sick and tired of the crap slinging soap opera bs.

Tell us how many hams we get in our pot, how many babies you'll kiss and shut the fook up. It's disgusting.

 

Mud slinging has never been this bad that I can recall.

At this point, I think the path is laid. My only hope is the Feds pop Hillary a shot in her arse and dismantle her ability officially from running.

 

 

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A lot of that was tough to watch, but I've had it with Trump.  I agree it's doubtful he knows more than..."We're gonna win, win win...".   And I don't trust him on pretty much..... everything.

 

Rubio has a lot of decent stances, but I think he'll be a puppet.  Schumer Pimp-Slapped into being a front man for his and McCain's Amnesty deal. And in the process, Rubio shafted the head of the ICE Officers Union, Chris Crane.

 

http://www.teaparty.org/ice-officer-rubio-lied-american-public-145586/

 

Not a fan of all of Cruz's positions, but of all the people that have been on that stage.... Cruz and probably Carson are the only ones that I believe can be trusted to try to do what they said they'll do and hold the line on their positions.  As far as Cruz being religious?  So what?  I had heard people complaining he was going to instate a Theocracy.  Wow.... That's pretty ignorant.  He'll protect religious rights.  Not make us all say Hail Mary's before breakfast. 

 

The format of the debate was dumb...   "He attacked me so I get to speak...... "  .......huh???  Shut up....  next topic......

 

But Carson has no shot.

 

Kasich has no shot.  Good guy.  He has too much  "I can work with the left" in his pitch.  Eff the left.  They get nothing and they'll like it.

 

Rubio is hoping no one reaches the 1200 whatever delegates and this goes to a brokered convention, which gives him a big advantage.

 

But if Trump win, i will grudgingly vote for him because we can't survive another Dem Socialist in the White House.  The SCOTUS will be 6-3 left and the 2A, Free Speech and sovereignty will all be in the toilet. We'll look like an EU country.

Whoever winds up as POTUS will not act say or do as they campaign today.  None has ever in the past, nor will any in the future.  Truth be told we will get screwed no matter how you look at it.  The question is how bad.  So sit back enjoy the show, do your part when the time comes (primary and general) and hope for the best.

I am more worried on how to keep Hitlary off the ballot, than who the Republicans run.  Unless something drastically changes Bloomturd is out.  He never plays unless he's certain he will win, and nobody west of the Hudson River likes him. He may buy the office, but I doubt he could stomach that.

 

We need to focus on more than the POTUS race.  We need to hedge our bets and keep the Senate and House red.  The entire House is up for election and enough seats in the Senate are in play to change change from red to blue.  Remember Reed changed the rules and only a simple majority is needed for passage of bills.

 

Christie endorsed Trump today, so I guess that's where he feels his next meal ticket is coming from.  Trump gets elected, Christie goes to DC and we the 2A crowd in NJ will prepare for BOHICA.

I agree with the OP (Newtonian), as I have stated in my other posts for some time, in a separate thread on Donald Trump.

 

As far as content, substance and sensibility goes, IMHO, John Kasich continues to come across as the only sane adult in this group of Republican candidates. Kasich strikes me as eminently qualified in every respect. While I strongly disagree with his politics and many of his policies, I recognize and respect his experience, practicality, temperament and humanity. He seems genuinely affable, neither incendiary nor robotic. Unfortunately, every single one of those traits disqualifies him in today's GOP. His thoughtful answer on illegal immigration barely registered with that blood thirsty audience at the last debate.

 

Kasich’s experience in both Washington and as the Governor of Ohio is the best pick of the remaining candidates and I think he is probably the only who has a chance to beat Hillary Clinton in the general election. Think about it….in a debate with her he'd be able to match her in substance. As far as character goes, she wouldn't be able to attack him at all, whereas she could beat up on Trump and Cruz. But I just do not see him getting any additional traction, so it is just wishful speculation.

 

At the end of the day though, I still just have to shake my head at all these knuckleheads. Trump as the megalomaniac demagogue with his wall that will be 10 ft higher!, Cruz with his all-consuming negativity and fundamentalist religious zealotry, Rubio with his lies and simplistic immaturity, Kasich who wants to keep women in the kitchens and has de-funded Planned Parenthood, and finally Carson who is a bizarre foggy enigma, who I have no idea why he is still even running…

 

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