Sometimes you can't engage the safety (an AR with malfunction, or locked back on an empty mag) or if there just isn't a safety at all, say a Glock. What if there are multiple targets, which one is designated down range? How do you engage targets that are on a different plane than the "downrange" target?

 

"Downrange" is a necessary administrative construct to make square-range firearms training safe. It is about as far removed from the real world as you can get and is the primary limiting factor for the effectiveness of "range" training in my opinion.

 

Letting go of the downrange concept when off the range and out in the world is a good portion of building a combat mindset and separates a gunfighter from shooter. That's really what firearms safety rule four: "Be aware of your target, it's background, the foreground, and everything around it" is all about.

I was just watching the panteao online EAG shoot house video where they talk all about that. I'm YEARS away from having the skill to do something like a live shoot house but man does that look stressful/fun.

On Keanu Reeves, maybe there's hope for the world.  Sounds like a good guy.

 

But yeah, that looks like a lot of fun, even if the procedure is more contained than how they operated in those video's.

 

Found this video of a 3 Gun Match.. for comparison.  The Reeves training is a bit more close quarters.  The set up at this match is more... sanitary.  Which I'll guess is more typical.  No junker cars to shoot through....   Either way.. it's something I want to do after more time under my belt.

 

That is the MOST sanitized version of 3gun, the made for TV 3GN series. It can get much wilder. 

Seems that way Vlad.  Thought I saw teacups and linen napkins off to one side.

 

Be fun to run one that has an urban warfare feel to it.  Probably too much work to set up..... props/structures and all that.

 

and how do you remember in what order to shoot the targets?  I guess that's part of the competition aspect of it....

and how do you remember in what order to shoot the targets?  I guess that's part of the competition aspect of it....

 

Correct that is the competitive part. It gets much more complicated when you have lots of options, do you choose to shoot these with rifle or pistol, those with shotgun or pistol, etc etc. At major matches you might have courses of fire that are 50+ rounds of a mix of gun, over the hills and through the woods. Keeping track of all of that and doing it fast and accurate is indeed the game. 

That definitely sounds like a blast.

 

I see precisely zero 3-Gun matches at CJRPC.  Thought I recall you considering running one at Old Bridge about this time last year... except for the ice on the ground/new shooter factor...  Any coming up in our area you know of?

 

Checked their calendar.  Sunday May 29th at Old Bridge

That definitely sounds like a blast.

 

I see precisely zero 3-Gun matches at CJRPC.  Thought I recall you considering running one at Old Bridge about this time last year... except for the ice on the ground/new shooter factor...  Any coming up in our area you know of?

 

Checked their calendar.  Sunday May 29th at Old Bridge

FNH in WV beginning of September, best time you will ever have shooting. 

BTW, my recommandation for anyone wanting to shoot 3gun is not NOT jump in the deep end of the pool. Start with USPSA or IDPA which is basically 3gun with only a pistol until you figure out safety, moving with a gun, understanding stage breakdown, etc, etc. Then you can go make it more complicated. It isn't that you can't start directly with 3gun, its just that you would be drinking from the fire hose AND paying more for it.

Right.  You mentioned that a while back. Good advice.  I'd just go to watch and learn.  Thanks