Just wanted to vent.

 

Brought 2 guns to the range: new AR I just finished today and Glock 17 w/ a new front sight. I Just wanted to test function on the AR and figure out POI w/ the Glock.

 

Well about 30 rounds in, the trigger pin walked on the AR rendering it unusable.  I thought, "no problem just switch to the Glock."

 

5 mags in, notice that front sight is loose.  On top of that, it's shooting too high.

 

Packed up my crap and left, just one of those days...

 

Never had a trigger pin walk on me before, should I invest in anti-walk pins?  It's a brand new lower and I assume brand new pins.

So what do you mean walked ---  completely fell out?

 

Never seen that before either 

 

Sights are overrated anyway -- I still would have shot the glock

I hate days like that.  it might have been a good time to rent something from the rental counter that you always wanted to tryout.   Down side of that it might cost you some money.  My last day like that I rented a mod 2.  I liked it so much I bought one.  You know NJ you just can't buy one.  If your going through the trouble for a permit you might as well get 3 LOL.  The time before that was a sig P229.  Now If I could just find a shop to rent me a CZ

Very odd to have your FCG pins walk out on you like that.

Something is clearly out of spec.

 

Anti-walk pins are mostly for FA, but never a bad investment.

 

Based on the sight you purchased you should know well before installing how POI will be influence by the sight height.

What brand lower and what brandLPK?

 

Something is out of spec...

 

Check to make sure the trigger group springs are placed correctly. The springs should hold the pins in place with the grooves on them.

 

You shouldn't need anti-walk pins.

what brand trigger is it?

I don't remember if it's RRA or PSA fire control group w/ PSA LPK.  

 

But I'm running JP lightened springs.

A bad day at the range is still better than a good day almost anywhere else.

So are the springs properly installed to lock the pins?

 

Also, don't worry about the glock factory sights, they are not sights anyway, they are sight cut protectors installed at the factory until you acquire real sights

So are the springs properly installed to lock the pins?

 

Also, don't worry about the glock factory sights, they are not sights anyway, they are sight cut protectors installed at the factory until you acquire real sights

 

I'm going to double check the springs.

 

These weren't factory sights, Dawson Precision. I changed the height of the post since the last ones were hitting low.  Now I'm hitting high so I'm going swap them again and split the difference in heights.

No idea on the pin.

But the sight walking. Loctite blue gel( looks like a lipstick thing)

No idea on the pin.

But the sight walking. Loctite blue gel( looks like a lipstick thing)

 

I actually use Loctite Red but I guess I didn't wait long enough for it to cure.

 

I just checked the springs and one side was off. I assume that happened after the pin walked.  Either way, everything is back together. Will give it another try.

 

Otherwise the gun rang great. Just have to change the stock and it's gtg.

Try the gel. They make it in red also. The red gel is uber permanent( or you just hit it with a propane torch for a min)

Shouldn't need loctite on trigger pins. There's a different issue.

Shouldn't need loctite on trigger pins. There's a different issue.

 

No loctite on pins, was talking about the loose front sight on the Glock.  Pins were just put back in.

The only time I had that pin walk on me was on an AR where the hammer spring was in backwards. Worth a check!

The psa lpk I installed on a relatives gun was out of spec. (I assume because colt parts fit right in there). I'd guess that's a definite possibility. Seems like a good excuse to order a geissele to fix it. They come with pins.

No loctite on pins, was talking about the loose front sight on the Glock. Pins were just put back in.

Sorry I was two martinis deep and my comprehension must have been lacking.

What brand lower and what brandLPK?

 

Something is out of spec...

 

Check to make sure the trigger group springs are placed correctly. The springs should hold the pins in place with the grooves on them.

 

You shouldn't need anti-walk pins.

 

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Loctite on the front sight?

 

No.....

 

Either the sight is the wrong size for the dove tail....or it is deformed in some way. ...

 

Aren't glock front sights screwed in?

 

Right Nicky.! Glocks have an elongated slot the front sight fits in and it is pulled down and secured by a Hex screw.  Locktite can be applied to the threads but if the sight is loose to begin with you're screwed.

Just saw a rear sight recently that was ham fisted by bubba.....

 

Incorrect rear sight for the dovetail plus it was a tritium rear and front sights....

 

Someone thought it was a good idea to hammer them in.... see one vile broke....bad in and of itself..but the sight wasn't squared and when it was hammered in...deformed the dovetail... not good all around.

 

Also it's tough telling people that blue loctite is ok for holding a screw on a rail...on a light mount etc imo..but never to fill in or to 'glue' a part in place....

 

I especially hate it on scopes. ... there is a torque spec for the screws.... by an inch pound torque wrench. ...

 

Sorry for the rant.... happy Easter frank!

 

We've both seen a lot of this crap.

Does Bubba know dovetails are tapered?

Does Bubba know the male dovetail must be fitted?

(some manufactures make them loose and install a perpendicular set screw for Bubba) 

 

Happy Easter Nicky and all !

Yes I'm not gluing the sight in place. I'm putting loctite on the screw holding the sight in place.

 

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What brand lower and what brandLPK?

 

Something is out of spec...

 

Check to make sure the trigger group springs are placed correctly. The springs should hold the pins in place with the grooves on them.

 

You shouldn't need anti-walk pins.

This ... The correctly placed hammer spring acts as a detent to keep the trigger pin in place. If installed upside down (I've done it) the trigger pin can walk, causing auto-double taps. It's an easy quick fix to start with.

What brand lower and what brandLPK?

 

Something is out of spec...

 

Check to make sure the trigger group springs are placed correctly. The springs should hold the pins in place with the grooves on them.

 

You shouldn't need anti-walk pins.

^This

 

I have one from 1975 and the pin holes look like they were cut yesterday. I have examined them with a microscope. Your POS AR mileage may vary. Yeah, I know, it's milspec and just as good as a Colt. Only thing anti-walk does is disguise a broken pin so it can do more damage.

I ran the rifle again today.  150 rounds down the pipe w/o a hiccup....

 

Not sure what it was the first time around but it seems to be resolved.

What brand lower and what brandLPK?

 

Something is out of spec...

 

Check to make sure the trigger group springs are placed correctly. The springs should hold the pins in place with the grooves on them.

 

You shouldn't need anti-walk pins.

Exactly right.  If I had to guess, the trigger spring tangs were not properly clipped into the pin notches.

 

Unless this was full auto fire, assembler error is prolly the cuprit.