I just posted link with explanation to Tac Tissy's (she's a female pro-2A YouTuber) Facebook page asking if she could possibly show up as a female 2A supporter.  I think she's from PA.  She's made a few trips to Gun For Hire so can't be too far.  Long shot but can't hurt to ask / try.

Tail gatining was a Zeke joke.

Banana hammock is more for the state house.

Grey man! Don't wear some gaudy orange t shirt. We only win we are at our best.

 

Glenn and Golf, I hope you got my humor.

 

Banana hammock? Hmmn, primary time, statehouse. Banana hammocks and banana holster protest..... Naked and defenseless . What channel wouldn't cover that? Prolly go national.

It's in june

Were good Zeke

Cool

Triumph Brewery is 6 minutes ago.  Let's invite some antis out for a beverage!  If none come, their loss! 

 

http://www.triumphbrewing.com/princeton/

Hand wringing over blue guns. This is really sad.

 

When these douchebags came to us for a rally we didn't carry blue guns. They gave up after two tries.

 

And that preacher is - disingenuous IMO. Not about gun facts, about everything, including himself.

Bucks County Courier Times: Bucks County

 

Posted: Monday, April 22, 2013 6:00 am

On March 30, I was present at a rally of about 200 people at the Bucks County Courthouse in Doylestown in support

of more effective gun laws. The event lasted one hour and the speakers were clear in stating our goals.

Also present was a smaller pro-gun crowd, which heckled every speaker. One of them was carrying what looked like

an assault rifle. I saw him as I was crossing East Court Street after the rally ended. I asked a policeman on the curb

why anyone would be allowed to carry such a weapon openly "in public near a political rally." The answer was, "It's

legal; this is Pennsylvania."

 

In other words, Eat a dick bitch. Go back to Jersey. And don't come back.

 

And they didn't.

Holstered blue guns in the PRNJ could open you up to an "Imitation Firearm" charge.

A banana could NEVER be taken by a "reasonable person" to be a firearm.

And holster wear is not currently a restricted action (yet)

Yeah none of that is going to happen there. So who else might show up?

me

Holstered blue guns in the PRNJ could open you up to an "Imitation Firearm" charge.

A banana could NEVER be taken by a "reasonable person" to be a firearm.

And holster wear is not currently a restricted action (yet)

Defense against a homicidal maniac armed with a banana....

 

In other words, Eat a dick bitch. Go back to Jersey. And don't come back. And they didn't.

So, you coming today?

To anyone that is coming today.  Bring a pen and notepad.  It will be hard to remember all the dishonesty being spread.  If you have notes you can clearly talk to people about the dishonesty later.

To anyone that is coming today.  Bring a pen and notepad.  It will be hard to remember all the dishonesty being spread.  If you have notes you can clearly talk to people about the dishonesty later.

 

Better yet, bring your MP3 player/RECORDER.  Before you walk in, hit record and stuff it in a shirt pocket.  I think most will record about 6 hours or more of audio.

How did it go?

300 riders . Pretty good considering the rain and hail and forecast.

 

Oh, you are talking about the hippi thing? I thought you were going. You don't practice what you preach?

300 riders . Pretty good considering the rain and hail and forecast.

 

Oh, you are talking about the hippi thing? I thought you were going. You don't practice what you preach?

Me? No.

Hehe. Zeke. I had to leave about 4:45. Had to interview a prospective employee. But i fell asleep for part of the show. Glenn and sgt toadette stayed till the end and stirred up all sorts of crap. Im sure glenn and sgt will be posting the play by play.

It wasn't all that bad. The movie is what you'd expect. Basically 5 or so stories of people affected by various gun related incidents (accidents with kids, mass shootings, suicide, ect.). Sprinkled between were various statistics about gun violence and clips of politicians and NRA speakers.

 

Afterwards was a very brief Q&A. Once that finished up, about half the people left and the other half jumped on Glenn. I tried to talk with a few people and was able to have some decent conversations, though often answering a question would lead to 3 more accusatory questions about a similar but different issue.

 

Jumping into the middle of an anti-gun event is obviously going to ruffle a few feathers, but I thought I was able to have some good discussion and hope I changed some opinions.

Thanks to Sgt Toadette for backing me up!  During the questions & comments part I said I had a relevant article from CNN about how the NRA is funded.  The film claims the gun manufactures fund most of the NRA.  I read the article which explains that NRA members fund most of the NRA.  I finished with, "NRA members just like me.".  I think you could hear a pin drop.....

 

I think we represented ourselves well.  As one can guess the people we were speaking with were very misinformed.  They don't know what makes an "assault rifle" an assault rifle, just that it is one because they've been told so.  I explained I can make a 10/22 an "assualt rifle by adding 3 cosmetic features to a traditional rifle.  they didn't have much to say about that.

 

Will post more later.  Walking Dead just started.

After one person made a comment / asked a question I said out loud, "Can't we just get ban them all or get rid of all of them."  Few people clapped and seemed to be okay with that.

 

They seemed convinced that the NRA is the reason Americans are purchasing firearms at record rates.  i told them if they want to have guns stop flying off the shelf to have Obama shut up. 

 

They also seem to be in denial that nobody wants to confiscate guns.  Even though I pointed out that both Obama and Hillary think we should model America after England's and Australia's gun models.  When I attempted to point out that those "plans" are pretty much bans and confiscation they denied it.  Even though they agreed that semi auto rifles and handguns were mandatory to turn in under Australia's "buy back".  But it's not confiscation?

The maker of the "documentary" is really trying to tap into the entire "they make too much money" / wealth distribution / rich people suck, mantra.  Kept mentioning how much NRA execs made, how much their houses were worth, how much gun manufacturing companies made, how much gun manufactures homes were worth, how much they paid for their boats, race horses etc.  Rather disgusting and not relevant to gun violence the country. 

 

i was actually a little surprised at the salaries of NRA execs compared to other large companies.  Not low by any means but not anywhere near shockingly high in comparison to others in similar positions.

Some misleading / blatantly wrong information from the "documentary" from notes I took:

 

40% of gun sales don't require background check

30% of guns come from gun shows

Gun companies pay NRA salary

It's a myth that you can protect yourself or family with a firearm

There are NO child safety laws in reference to guns (leaving loaded guns unsecured in home with children)

2 million people have been prevented from buying gun because of NICS

Background checks started after Colorado theater shooting

 

 

At one point I tried explaining that the NRA was the ones who recommended and pushed for NICS.  That was ignored.

Good job Glenn, Sgt.T and Golf. Sorry I couldn't make it. Let Ed know why.

 

In any case, it's very revealing that the content of the movie and to some extent, the attendees positions, had little to do with the realities of the crime and suicides that were highlighted. It says they really don't have a good argument for their position, let alone an understanding of firearms. Some of what they are saying is reactionary and out of ignorance of the facts. I still think that for many people, their positions can be changed if they are exposed to the facts in a non-confrontational way.

 

Thanks guys.

Some misleading / blatantly wrong information from the "documentary" from notes I took:

 

40% of gun sales don't require background check

30% of guns come from gun shows

Gun companies pay NRA salary

It's a myth that you can protect yourself or family with a firearm

There are NO child safety laws in reference to guns (leaving loaded guns unsecured in home with children)

2 million people have been prevented from buying gun because of NICS

Background checks started after Colorado theater shooting

 

 

At one point I tried explaining that the NRA was the ones who recommended and pushed for NICS.  That was ignored.

Typical leftist tactic. When the facts don't support your argument, change the facts.

 

What would be helpful is to compile these fake facts and have a small library of the real data.

 

Does this filmaker have a facebook page? Those facts should be debunked online.

Typical leftist tactic. When the facts don't support your argument, change the facts.

 

What would be helpful is to compile these fake facts and have a small library of the real data.

 

Does this filmaker have a facebook page? Those facts should be debunked online.

There is a "making of" the documenary on YouTube. I posted some comments on it that countered what was in the 2.5 minute clip before I attended the viewimg.

 

Almost all the "facts" stated in the 2.5 minute "making of" are wrong or misleading. That was a real motivation for me to go see how much misinformatiin was in the entire thing.

 

The YouTube page is:

 

 

https://youtu.be/Hvs2m4fnsjw

 

They also have a Facebook page:

 

https://m.facebook.com/BraveNewFilms

 

 

What would be helpful is to compile these fake facts and have a small library of the real data.

 

 

 

This is an excellant idea. There should be a sticky made for this.

http://www.njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/43322-njgf-online-resource-compendium/#entry571573

There is a "making of" the documenary on YouTube. I posted some comments on it that countered what was in the 2.5 minute clip before I attended the viewimg.

 

Almost all the "facts" stated in the 2.5 minute "making of" are wrong or misleading. That was a real motivation for me to go see how much misinformatiin was in the entire thing.

 

 

 

 

Thanks Glen. I'll check it out at home.  I missed your post but I'll look for it. Thnx for being diligent.

 

http://www.njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/43322-njgf-online-resource-compendium/#entry571573

 

Ok, that's a lot of info.  I've seen some of it but probably less than a third of what's there.  Thnx. 

 

This is an excellent idea. There should be a sticky made for this.

 

I'll try to gather some it.  It can begin with what you uncovered.  All I envision is a two column list.   #1 Anti Rant    #2 Reality

 

 

Dana Loesch had a  good article covering a few of these myths.

 

http://danaloeschradio.com/debunking-the-14-biggest-gun-control-lies