Hi All,

 

I'm working on my first AR build and had a few questions about Muzzle Devices.

 

1. If I purchase a threaded barrel & a threaded muzzle device then can I still have them shipped to my house in NJ and then take to the gunsmith to get pinned? or should I err on the side of caution have them both shipped to the gunsmith?

 

2. Is there a list of muzzle devices considered acceptable? I was interested in the VG6 Precision EPSILON 556, but their description "High Performance Muzzle Brake Flash Suppressing Type" leads me to believe this might be considered illegal in NJ. Would the Gamma 556 be considered legal in NJ (if pinned to the barrel)

 

3. Can you recommend a few other NJ legal muzzle brakes/compensator that I could look and compare that?

 

Thanks in advance for your input.

 

 

DPMS Miculek

 

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1. Yes you can ship all of them to your house. 

2. Don't mess with anything that says flash suppressor. 

3. What MJ said. 

Gamma 556 looks OK. The other not so much

The Gamma 556 is fine I have one on one of mine.

 

Take a look at the Yankee Hill Phantom 5M1 

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/124926/yankee-hill-machine-muzzle-brake-phantom-5m1-aggressive-1-2-28-thread-ar-15-parkerized

 

Or just search Midway's site. Lots of nice pics to look at. 

http://www.midwayusa.com/s?userSearchQuery=muzzle+brake&uac=true

Or just search Midway's site. Lots of nice pics to look at. 

http://www.midwayusa.com/s?userSearchQuery=muzzle+brake&uac=true

I have a couple from this page.   ^^^^  

 

I have two EGW muzzle brakes ,They look like a2 flash hiders. And two  Schuster Atac comp- muzzle brakes. they work great.

What's your budget, and what are you looking to accomplish?

 

There are cheaper brakes that get very concussive (YHM Phantom 5M1/5M2 - usually $30 or less), some that get very blasty (JP Cooley, DPMS Miculek) but do a LOT for muzzle rise..

 

Some people like the looks of smaller holes (Spikes Dynacomp - also less concussive than most)...

 

Some people like giant cookie cutters (Strike Industries Cookie Cutter Comp)...

 

It all comes down to what you're looking for.

DPMS Miculek

 

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Maybe its me but I really don't like that locking nut thing --  why not a crush washer and flats on the brake to tighten

 

The locking nut flats not being vertical and the space between barrel and locking nut would drive me crazy too

 

I just put a lantac dragon on my most recent build  -- Liked it so much that I already bought one for my next build because of a sale price at primary arms -- $89

Maybe its me but I really don't like that locking nut thing --  why not a crush washer and flats on the brake to tighten

 

The locking nut flats not being vertical and the space between barrel and locking nut would drive me crazy too

 

I just put a lantac dragon on my most recent build  -- Liked it so much that I already bought one for my next build because of a sale price at primary arms -- $89

This...Lantac Dragon FTW

 

Maybe its me but I really don't like that locking nut thing --  why not a crush washer and flats on the brake to tighten

 

The locking nut flats not being vertical and the space between barrel and locking nut would drive me crazy too

 

I just put a lantac dragon on my most recent build  -- Liked it so much that I already bought one for my next build because of a sale price at primary arms -- $89

The locking nut is so you can put it in the proper position, 2:50 in the video 

https://youtu.be/GC1N7iW-yRA 

It's not loud if you are the shooter, just the RO. 

For thirty bucks and working just as good as a hundred dollar brake I really couldn't ever see myself using anything else. That's seventy bucks worth of ammo... 

The video didn't work in my last post, here it is 

Thanks Everyone for your insightful responses. I'm going to look at all the options provided here and do some research on these.

 

There was a question regarding my budget and what I aim to accomplish with this device. I'm hoping to stay under $50, but can spend up to $100 on this. I'm looking for something that reduces recoil. Aesthetics are important, but not as important as utility. 

 

The Lantac Dragon's video looks pretty impressive. Does anyone have an opinion about the M4-72 Severe-Duty™ Compensator (http://precisionarmament.com/product/m4-72-tactical-compensator/).

 

Thanks again for all your suggestions!

FWIW, many  comps out there but the general consensus is the Miculek comp works at a fraction of the cost of many others. If you are concerned about noise and other shooters try something else. If you want to keep muzzle down and sights on target go Miculek. Pat Kelly, renowned 3gun shooter has stated time and time again to go with a Miculek.

Full disclosure, I have a JP Cooley on my AR.

The locking nut is so you can put it in the proper position, 2:50 in the video 

https://youtu.be/GC1N7iW-yRA 

It's not loud if you are the shooter, just the RO. 

For thirty bucks and working just as good as a hundred dollar brake I really couldn't ever see myself using anything else. That's seventy bucks worth of ammo... 

 

 

I get what your saying Lou but you can clock just as easily with the standard crush washer -- Just seems silly to me to do it that way

 

I do like the price -- 

Lantec dragon is a nice brake.. the Gamma VG6 also..

 

Note: If you are going to install yourself.. Prepare to Cuss a lot when drilling the Lantec... that shits made of Diamond or something lol

Right now I'm considering M4-72 Severe-Duty, Lantec Dragon and Gamma VG6... Wish I could buy all three for three different builds... 

Getting the Gamma at a lower cost interest you ?

http://www.schuylerarmsco.com/product.vg6-gamma-556-92-993

 

If using a 14.5" bbl the EX will bring you to legal length , is pre drilled and the same price

http://www.schuylerarmsco.com/product.vg6-gamma-556-ex-94-993

WOW! That's a great price. I'm going to order one. Even though the regular Gamma is not predrilled, it can still be pinned by a gunsmith? Correct?

 

Getting the Gamma at a lower cost interest you ?

http://www.schuylerarmsco.com/product.vg6-gamma-556-92-993

 

If using a 14.5" bbl the EX will bring you to legal length , is pre drilled and the same price

http://www.schuylerarmsco.com/product.vg6-gamma-556-ex-94-993

WOW! That's a great price. I'm going to order one. Even though the regular Gamma is not predrilled, it can still be pinned by a gunsmith? Correct?

 

Yes.  Just a pain to drill through.  Need cobalt bits.

Thanks. I've placed my order

Depending in the Brake you might need a Carbine Bit.. Not the cheap Homedepot bits

Depending in the Brake you might need a Carbine Bit.. Not the cheap Homedepot bits

...and a drill press. Forget hand drills.

 

 

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Depending in the Brake you might need a Carbine Bit.. Not the cheap Homedepot bits

 

Thanks for the heads up Steve. Do you provide assembly and compliance services for AR build? (Pin stock, pin brake etc)

Yes he does.

Yes he does.

 

x2 Steve actually put that brake on for me as well. 

I do

Another +1 for Steve...had I not been there to see it I would have said it was never done lol... can't tell.

I'm the brake whisperer lol

I've heard that a dozen donuts can reduce Steve's gunsmithing rate dramatically.

I've heard that a dozen donuts can reduce Steve's gunsmithing rate dramatically.

 

All Lies! LOL