My parents live in South Carolina, and I have used a local FFL down there in the past to send up some pistols my father didn't want anymore.

Recently that FFL had great deals on some "real" ARs. Most recently they had a Armalite Eagle 15 optics ready for under 500 bucks...

 

I asked if they'd be willing to send up the rifle to NJ without the 30 round mag, with the flash hider taken off (with the threads exposed) and to send it with no stock (just left with the buffer tube)

 

I was told he will not because the ATF could ask him how he made it legal before shipping......

 

Is he right?

 

I told him my FFL would make sure it was NJ legal before transferring it to me... but he wasn't believing me...

He could send the same way 1000s if not 100s of 1000s of non compliant ARs shipped by various out of state vendors, FFLs to NJ FFLs.

 

Same way I ordered non compliant parts online to be shipped to NJ FFL for compliance work.  

 

If he is willing, how about he ask his ATF contact in that neck of woods. 

ATF wouldn't know or care otherwise during our last compliance inspection, we would have had some explaining to do regarding the middleman work done to rifles that were sent to us then shipped on to CA FFLs.

He doesn't want to get involved that's all.  Have someone down there make it compliant and send it up.  

The excuse he gave you about the ATF asking him how he made it legal

is BS. 

First - the ATF has no regulations about shipping rifles (other than NFA,)

since the AWB has expired.

Second - an FFL can ship a Non-Compliant weapon to another FFL w/o

any State regulations since the FFL is exempt for the State Regulations.

 

As T Bill said - He just doesn't want to get involved and came up with that lame excuse.

 

Have someone down there (Friend or Relative) purchase the rifle.

Then have them take it to another FFL and have it transferred to 

NJ FFL who is willing to do the compliance work - really very simple........

I thought it was a lame excuse.... and now it just holds no water.

I'll reach out to him again, it was a great deal (at least I think it is)

He had done me right in the past with some great transfers.

Jack's advice is the easiest to get this done IMO.

Why not ask if your NJ FFL guy would contact him to ok it?

My parents live in South Carolina, and I have used a local FFL down there in the past to send up some pistols my father didn't want anymore.

Recently that FFL had great deals on some "real" ARs. Most recently they had a Armalite Eagle 15 optics ready for under 500 bucks...

I asked if they'd be willing to send up the rifle to NJ without the 30 round mag, with the flash hider taken off (with the threads exposed) and to send it with no stock (just left with the buffer tube)

I was told he will not because the ATF could ask him how he made it legal before shipping......

Is he right?

I told him my FFL would make sure it was NJ legal before transferring it to me... but he wasn't believing me...

He is not, but he doesn't know better. Have him make it complaint and then send it.

Said he doesn't do "gunsmithing"

That's why I said to unscrew the flashhider and just remove the collapsing stock.

Would take him 2 minutes and make him some easy cash.

 

 

He is not, but he doesn't know better. Have him make it complaint and then send it.

If you PM me the contact info - i would be happy to call the guy and see if i can

talk some sense into his head and do the transfer & compliance work for you........

 

JT

I might take you up on it.

 

Might just buy a lower and start building something. Not very good with tools but sure I could figure it out .

 

Will let you know, I'm in old bridge and you are a little far for a transfer!

 

 

If you PM me the contact info - i would be happy to call the guy and see if i can

talk some sense into his head and do the transfer & compliance work for you........

 

JT

Said he doesn't do "gunsmithing"

That's why I said to unscrew the flashhider and just remove the collapsing stock.

Would take him 2 minutes and make him some easy cash.

 

 

 

By doing either of those 2 things you haven't done anything to make the rifle compliant. Might as well tell him to do nothing and just send it asis

Might just buy a lower and start building something. Not very good with tools but sure I could figure it out .

 

If you go that route, don't sweat it. My motto is "I fly them, don't fix them" because I'm to mechanically inclined, but I built my last lower with no issues at all. Plenty of online resources out there. Having the right tools makes it easier too.