4 minutes ago, Dark Storm said:

... NJSP measures with the stock collapsed ...

Documentation?

2 minutes ago, PK90 said:

Documentation?

It is in emails between us as a manufacturer and the NJSP. 

"Firearm must have an overall length of more then 26 inches with the pistol brace collapsed."

33 minutes ago, Dark Storm said:

To clarify...

The NJSP letter includes a copy of the ATF determination letter on our DS-15 Typhoon firearm (non-NFA) which has the  ATF language of measured with the stock extended. 

NJSP measures with the stock collapsed

ATF measures with the stock extended

It does not make sense that they measure differently, but they do.

Hope this helps.

 

Thanks DSI...Awesome Firearm btw

@Modern Materiel What modifications are allowed... can i swap out muzzle brake for a Sure Fire and attach a Warden blast diffuser?? i believe it still over 26"

31 minutes ago, GramGun79 said:

@Modern Materiel What modifications are allowed... can i swap out muzzle brake for a Sure Fire and attach a Warden blast diffuser?? i believe it still over 26"

You can add the Griffin Ind blast shield to the MM Brake that is already on there.

I am a big fan of their brake. Shoots very flat and soft.

37 minutes ago, High Exposure said:

You can add the Griffin Ind blast shield to the MM Brake that is already on there.

I am a big fan of their brake. Shoots very flat and soft.

I think the MM version are shipping out with A2 Flash hiders. I was talking to someone over at MM on instagram a few days ago and i think only the initial batch is shipping with the MM Brake. 

1 hour ago, GramGun79 said:

I think the MM version are shipping out with A2 Flash hiders. I was talking to someone over at MM on instagram a few days ago and i think only the initial batch is shipping with the MM Brake. 

Yes we are shipping with A2 birdcages. For a couple reasons. It's an effective Muzzel device. No one in NJ ever was allowed to have them and now you can and they are cost effective so you can swap it out to whatever cool flash hider you like... 

 

12 hours ago, Modern Materiel said:

Yes we are shipping with A2 birdcages. For a couple reasons. It's an effective Muzzel device. No one in NJ ever was allowed to have them and now you can and they are cost effective so you can swap it out to whatever cool flash hider you like... 

 

What muzzle device will the 9mm  SBF have?

1 hour ago, samtechlan said:

What muzzle device will the 9mm  SBF have?

Probably the SLR linear comp

On 6/25/2019 at 3:55 PM, Modern Materiel said:

Here is our SBF with an 11.5 inch barrel and the 26.1 comes right the crown of the barrel. 

If you get the flash hider pinned at the FFL can you ship with a 10.5" barrel or no? 

49 minutes ago, TonyL said:

If you get the flash hider pinned at the FFL can you ship with a 10.5" barrel or no? 

@Modern Materiel i am curious about this too Joe.... (Its Anthony Chris sold my SBF!! lol)

52 minutes ago, GramGun79 said:

@Modern Materiel i am curious about this too Joe.... (Its Anthony Chris sold my SBF!! lol)

No it's not long enough with that flash hider and we only offer it in 11 and 1/2 inch barrels

3 minutes ago, Modern Materiel said:

No it's not long enough with that flash hider and we only offer it in 11 and 1/2 inch barrels

Awesome thank you! Also what's the backorder time like? Looking to pick up a slate gray shortly. =) 

3 minutes ago, TonyL said:

Awesome thank you! Also what's the backorder time like? Looking to pick up a slate gray shortly. =) 

Sleep grey have just hit Shore shot in Lakewood

3 minutes ago, Modern Materiel said:

Sleep grey have just hit Shore shot in Lakewood

Any retailers in North or Central Jersey? I'm located in union. 

7 minutes ago, TonyL said:

Any retailers in North or Central Jersey? I'm located in union. 

Longshot just received a delivery the other day and Reloaders in Wayne is also a dealer of ours

Any updates on the ETA for the 9mm sbf?

2 minutes ago, samtechlan said:

Any updates on the ETA for the 9mm sbf?

September 

Phone was updating ..

so....

I had the opportunity to shoot the full Modern Material line up yesterday with the main focus on the SBF. While conditions weren’t the best, random thunderstorms, rain, 90*+ degrees with roughly 100% humidity, I was able to make quite a few shots on steel targets varying between 50-100 yards using a red dot. I am not a good shooter mind you and the humidity did cause my glasses to fog adding to the challenge. The SBF was extremely light, accurate, (as accurate as I could be), and surprisingly was not as loud as I thought for its short size. It was actually rather tame! If anyone has ever considered something small for home defense, this would probably be the best alternative hands down. 

I will be ordering one of these in the near future from MM. what an awesome little package!!

@Modern Materiel

Out of curiosity, with the most recent ATF opinion... If you remove the brace and measure only the buffer extension will you still get to 26"? 

On 7/7/2019 at 10:24 AM, JackDaWack said:

@Modern Materiel

Out of curiosity, with the most recent ATF opinion... If you remove the brace and measure only the buffer extension will you still get to 26"? 

Interested also

On 6/28/2019 at 7:41 PM, GramGun79 said:

@Modern Materiel What modifications are allowed... can i swap out muzzle brake for a Sure Fire and attach a Warden blast diffuser?? i believe it still over 26"

Surefire makes a direct-to-thread version of their Warden diffuser so there's no need to get a muzzle brake.  Not sure about any impact to performance going direct-to-thread but it'd save you a few bucks from having to get the brake as well.

Just picked this up from MM on Thursday. Fit and Finish is excellent. Probably only change will be to a LaRue 2 Stage trigger and maybe some offset iron sights.

IIRC, firearm must be measured with the brace in the closed position because minimum overall length must be greater than 26" for it to be considered not concealable. Under 26" is considered concealable. 

Regarding the extended length, I was told it referred to a "rifle's typical length of pull" (which was in the vicinity of 13", sorry for not being more specific or having the links bookmarked for pasting). Therefore, if the extended stabilizer has a LOP around 13" it could be construed to act as a shoulder fixture rather than a forearm stabilizer or cheek weld.

I will try follow up with links later.

IIRC - New ATF regulation is to measure from the end of the barrel to the end of the receiver extension with any brace and muzzle device removed (unless the muzzle device is pinned, then that remains).

12 minutes ago, Blairsden said:

...the extended length, I was told it referred to a "rifle's typical length of pull" (which was in the vicinity of 13", sorry for not being more specific or having the links bookmarked for pasting). Therefore, if the extended stabilizer has a LOP around 13" it could be construed to act as a shoulder fixture rather than a forearm stabilizer or cheek weld.

I will try follow up with links later.

One IOI in CT said this. There is no law or regulation. Good luck looking.

On 9/14/2019 at 7:28 AM, FDHog said:

Just picked this up from MM on Thursday. Fit and Finish is excellent. Probably only change will be to a LaRue 2 Stage trigger and maybe some offset iron sights.

Nice. I love the color.

I’m curious.

Why get offset irons?

Why not regular back up iron sights (BUIS)?

Offsets are a great option if using an optic that precludes you from flipping standard sights up - like a LPVO or other magnified optic. But on the setup in your photo, with a RDS, a set of standard BUIS are faster to deploy and simpler to use IMO.

To the blave

6 minutes ago, High Exposure said:

Why get offset irons?

Because its kewl to turn your gat to the side and shoot.

1 hour ago, PK90 said:

Because its kewl to turn your gat to the side and shoot.

No, because not sure if they will be visible thru the Romeo. Besides all my scope mounted AR's have canted sights. They are "back up" sights and will only be used that way.