I got an email from NJ2AS a couple days ago about a lawsuit they were contemplating filing against Ramsey, but as I recall it didn't discuss what the ordnance proposed.

 

I found this article on North Jersey's website this morning. Basically they want to outlaw shooting ranges, like Chicago tried to do. Last night they tabled the vote until they get lawyers in place.

 

Currently indoor and outdoor ranges in Ramsey are exempt from the 'no discharge' prohibition.

 

 

when you need to get lawyers in place before you do something, it's probably a really good indication it's not good. vote them out!

http://www.northjersey.com/story/news/bergen/ramsey/2017/02/09/ramsey-tables-vote-gun-law-preparing-lawsuits/97610400/

 

Bracing for potential Second Amendment lawsuits, the borough council on Wednesday postponed voting to prohibit local gun ranges from firing weapons, until it hires a legal defense.

They should get sued, and lose, over spot-zoning. 

http://www.njgunforums.com/forum/index.php/topic/84878-petition-supporting-possible-new-range-in-ramsey/

 

A small thread on-going here already from a few weeks ago.

Just got an email ordinance pulled.

Just got an email ordinance pulled.

more like it got temp tabled till Ramsey can power up their legal team.

more like it got temp tabled till Ramsey can power up their legal team.

I am not familiar with this.

Keep me up to date

The email did not mention what the hubub was about -- just mentioned the ordinance. I found the proposed site is 2 or 3 towns over, east of Ramsey, a good 4 miles away. Is this "Greater Ramsey" or am I missing something?

I am not familiar with this.

Keep me up to date

 

The Northjersey article states

 

 

 

The borough will retain a national law firm on a pro bono basis in case of future litigation, before the council votes again on Feb. 22, she said.

 

Sounds like they're gearing up for a legal battle, and merely postponed the decision until they have legal representation.

The Northjersey article states

 

 

Sounds like they're gearing up for a legal battle, and merely postponed the decision until they have legal representation.

Ugg, why this "we won email ".

Thank you for making me read the article.

That new range sounds great. The name is pretty cool too (refer to my avatar). Not for nothing, but NJ2AS is kind of trying to make it look like they ar emaking so much headway. Then you dig just a smidge deeper and BAM you realize there is really nothing there. I do believe this range will be built. Any town that has that level of arrogance will go down.

That new range sounds great. The name is pretty cool too (refer to my avatar). Not for nothing, but NJ2AS is kind of trying to make it look like they ar emaking so much headway. Then you dig just a smidge deeper and BAM you realize there is really nothing there. I do believe this range will be built. Any town that has that level of arrogance will go down.

They'll eat sh*t trying to get anything done there, though, im sure... Even if they manage to get it built, the city will do everything in their power to make life hell... Had that issue in Newark in the past...

The Northjersey article states

 

Sounds like they're gearing up for a legal battle, and merely postponed the decision until they have legal representation.

Aw c'mon stop being such a wet blanket. The issue is settled. I read it in my inbox today. Ramsey will have its range. Not 4 miles away but in the ShopRite parking lot off of 17E. Like your favorite outdoor range but with the added excitement of shoppers dashing and darting to and fro. Like Hillary these guys FIGHT FOR US.

I knew this would happen.

Retain a "National Law Firm Pro Bono", you mean funded by Bloomturd!

... Not for nothing, but NJ2AS is kind of trying to make it look like they ar emaking so much headway. Then you dig just a smidge deeper and BAM you realize there is really nothing there. ...

 

Yeah, effin' NJ2AS, doing a hasty writeup of their efforts that can be misinterpreted as claiming "mission accomplished". 

 

Screw them, they can go pound, especially when compared to the efforts of the all other NJ pro-gun groups (*cough* ANJRPC *cough*)  in defending this.

 

/sarcasm

more like it got temp tabled till Ramsey can power up their legal team.

 

And then waste tax payer money on behavior the Supreme Court has been very clear on...

Yeah, effin' NJ2AS, doing a hasty writeup of their efforts that can be misinterpreted as claiming "mission accomplished". 

 

Screw them, they can go pound, especially when compared to the efforts of the all other NJ pro-gun groups (*cough* ANJRPC *cough*)  in defending this.

 

/sarcasm

+1  NJ2AS came in and did what they could at the time- throw some cold water on the town trying to bull their way thru the legal system. didnt see any other 2A group there cough cough.

Yeah, effin' NJ2AS, doing a hasty writeup of their efforts that can be misinterpreted as claiming "mission accomplished". 

 

Screw them, they can go pound, especially when compared to the efforts of the all other NJ pro-gun groups (*cough* ANJRPC *cough*)  in defending this.

 

/sarcasm

At least NJ2AS claims to do stuff. Their efforts got us the Hudson reciprocity bill in its current form, forced Ramsey to begin construction of an elevated, state of the art gun range above Rte. 17, successfully recalled state senator Sw.... wait a second they didn't do that.

 

When was the last time you read "NRA" and "New Jersey" in the same fake news release in a positive light?

Opinion editorial in The Record today. Interesting: 

 

http://www.northjersey.com/story/opinion/editorials/2017/02/12/editorial-second-amendment-rights-ramsey/97716848/

Opinion editorial in The Record today. Interesting: 

 

http://www.northjersey.com/story/opinion/editorials/2017/02/12/editorial-second-amendment-rights-ramsey/97716848/

Interesting? My jaw dropped reading it lol. Not what I was expecting for sure.

Opinion editorial in The Record today. Interesting:

 

http://www.northjersey.com/story/opinion/editorials/2017/02/12/editorial-second-amendment-rights-ramsey/97716848/

Thanks for posting this.

 

I'll file this under "actual common sense"

Have seen public parks closed here in NJ because someone found paint chips on the grass...then tested for lead....god knows what they could do here if they smartened up.....scary.

Opinion editorial in The Record today. Interesting: 

 

http://www.northjersey.com/story/opinion/editorials/2017/02/12/editorial-second-amendment-rights-ramsey/97716848/

You got that right! Practically heresy in this state. Thanks for posting that.

This op ed was in The Record!!  Thats big news itself! LOL  still not believing what I read

Should be required reading for all the "Mom's"...sounded like real "Gun Sense" to me...(and in the Record???  wow!)

Aw c'mon stop being such a wet blanket. The issue is settled. I read it in my inbox today. Ramsey will have its range. Not 4 miles away but in the ShopRite parking lot off of 17E. Like your favorite outdoor range but with the added excitement of shoppers dashing and darting to and fro. Like Hillary these guys FIGHT FOR US.

"Like Hillary these guys FIGHT FOR US".  What the hell does this mean?

Keybo

ard bloviators trashing other people's efforts as usual. I believe the non first amendment forum term is feces bag

Anyone know if the range is intended to be open to the public or private?

 

Does not seem very welcoming.  NJ NICS + S.P. 66?

 

"Background checks for criminal and mental health issues would be conducted on each person who enters the facility, including law enforcement,"