Would this be legal in NJ?

 

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1018339425/polymer80-pf940cv1-80-pct-pistol-frame-kit-glock-19-23-32-polymer

Not if you plan on making it into a pistol.  Manufacturing a firearm in NJ without a federal and state license is illegal.  

As a paper weight, yes. Finishing it, Nope

 

 

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You can finish it just not in NJ I belive.

So, you can legally buy it, then take it to PA to drill it out, then bring it back to NJ as a stripped frame?

If so I fucking love this state.

My only concern is numbers. But , as my wife suggested. Mrsz00001 would be ok.

But not in this state for stamping or the 20%

I have heard mipa is having an 80 % party.

It's byob, b extra BBQ, and Byo sleeping bag.

He said" I wanna put my money where my mouf is here"

Your mileage may vary. But he or I will put a post up soon

So...I drive out to PA, set up my drill press, and finish this thing.   Can I then legally bring it back home to NJ?  Forget the complicated transport laws.  I'm just asking about "taking possession" of a newly manufactured handgun that I manufactured.

So...I drive out to PA, set up my drill press, and finish this thing.   Can I then legally bring it back home to NJ?  Forget the complicated transport laws.  I'm just asking about "taking possession" of a newly manufactured handgun that I manufactured.

 

Yup. And some people have finished them just with dremels.

 

I believe it is legal to finish the frame in another state that allows personal firearms manufacture and then bring it back into NJ.

 

It is legal to possess a firearm in NJ that you legally acquired in another state without registration in NJ (registration is voluntary) or using a NJ Purchase Permit (only necessary for acquiring a handgun within NJ).

 

I don't see any practical difference, NJ law-wise, in finishing a polymer 80 frame out of state and returning to NJ with it vs. buying a bb pistol or black powder pistol in another state and returning to NJ with it.

 

Optional, but probably a good idea - get a serial # engraved into the unfinished frame before completing it. I'm contemplating 'FSCKWEINBERG001' for my serial #.

 

I plan to do just this, just waiting for a free weekend.  Anyone who'd like to coordinate a time/place to do them in PA, I'm all ears.

I assume if you are a nj resident and acquire/build the pistol out of state you would have to transfer it, use p2p.

I assume if you are a nj resident and acquire/build the pistol out of state you would have to transfer it, use p2p.

 

Why?  You can go to Cabela's in PA, buy a bb pistol or a black powder pistol, both of which are considered handguns per NJ law, and return to NJ with them without needing a P2P.

 

P2P is only for acquiring a handgun *IN* NJ.  P2P's have no meaning for pistols legally acquired out of state.  Do people who move into NJ with pistols they acquired while residents of other states have to transfer them into NJ with P2P's?  Of course not.

My only concern is numbers. But , as my wife suggested. Mrsz00001 would be ok.

But not in this state for stamping or the 20%

 

I don't think stamping in NJ is verboten, as long as it's still an unfinished frame.  Until it's a finished frame, it's just a hunk of plastic.  Stamp it, engrave it, scratch it, mark it all you want while in NJ.

 

looks like I know what I'll be buying next time i'm at the in-laws.

looks like I know what I'll be buying next time i'm at the in-laws.

 

The polymer 80 kit includes drills and a milling bit.  Just need the press (and they recommend a cross vise).  However, some mavericks have finished them just with dremels and hand drills.

Why?  You can go to Cabela's in PA, buy a bb pistol or a black powder pistol, both of which are considered handguns per NJ law, and return to NJ with them without needing a P2P.

 

P2P is only for acquiring a handgun *IN* NJ.  P2P's have no meaning for pistols legally acquired out of state.  Do people who move into NJ with pistols they acquired while residents of other states have to transfer them into NJ with P2P's?  Of course not.

 

You're missing the key word "resident". 

I'm curious to which travel exemption will get it back to a NJ home from PA.

I'm curious to which travel exemption will get it back to a NJ home from PA.

who cares. Don't drive like a idiot and if you do and get pulled over don't consent to a search. If the police get a warrent and search your vehicle you've got bigger problems. Or if you really want to abide by dumb laws you could go to a range in PA. Finish it in the parking lot and drive home from a range to your home.

You're missing the key word "resident".

Campground

who cares. Don't drive like a idiot and if you do and get pulled over don't consent to a search. If the police get a warrent and search your vehicle you've got bigger problems. Or if you really want to abide by dumb laws you could go to a range in PA. Finish it in the parking lot and drive home from a range to your home.

so the travel exemption is coming home from a range. May work with a functioning handgun that you were able to build in PA and go to a range with (altho I doubt NJ would share that sentiment just because its NJ). Just a lower, maybe not. An argument could be made that the law doesnt say you HAVE to actually shoot the "firearm" at a range just be there, or maybe it does idk .....Just sounds like a dumb game to accomodate dumb laws and win dumb prizes. And the point of even having to worry about getting pulled over doesnt build confidence of the legitimacy of the whole operation. A little too sketchy for me but for anyone else have at it. And be sure to post pics here after its done.

cops won't know if you have dope in the car unless you get stopped and searched.

cops won't know if you have tons of cash in the car unless you get stopped and searched.

cops won't know if you have guns in the car unless you get stopped and searched.

etc.

 

here's a hint: don't do stupid shit that gets you stopped, and don't do stupid shit that gets you searched.

These aren't range toys imho. These are shtf tools. Keep that in mind

I think they'll get you on who the "manufacturer" is, no legitimate business and address stamped on the receiver, etc.  Until I read that is is "ok" to do a 80%, I'm going to assume it's not judging by what is already written.  

I'm planning on 4 this summer. Camp in pa

2 ar lowers

2 glock lowers.

Function test at my undisclosed locations.

Never talk about again

So who or how does anyone know for sure where it was actually finished ? Unless you video yourself with a dremel in PA ?

You're missing the key word "resident".

No, you're too focused on the word 'resident'.

 

If you legally acquired the firearm outside of NJ, and the firearm is otherwise legal to possess in NJ, then you don't have to do anything to bring it into NJ other than follow transport laws.

 

Manufacturing it in PA, whether a resident of PA or not, is legally acquiring the firearm.

No, you're too focused on the word 'resident'.

 

If you legally acquired the firearm outside of NJ, and the firearm is otherwise legal to possess in NJ, then you don't have to do anything to bring it into NJ other than follow transport laws.

 

Manufacturing it in PA, whether a resident of PA or not, is legally acquiring the firearm.

 

Have at it.  Bring it to the NJSP barracks and let me know how you make out.

Have at it. Bring it to the NJSP barracks and let me know how you make out.

Why would you, or anyone do that?

Would you do that with your most recent p2p purchase.

 

That argument is null and void

 

GEEZ! JUST DO IT MAN!

 

Would you do that with your most recent p2p purchase.

Yes, because I didn't fab it in a campground in PA.

Yes, because I didn't fab it in a campground in PA.

Why would you show up at a police barracks with a handgun?  There is no mention of police barracks being an exempt location for handgun transport.