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Active gun man in Dallas

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It appears a gunman shot and wounded a paramedic/fireman.  The victim is in surgery and I didn't read much but the shooter is on the run.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/05/01/dallas-paramedic-shot-police-hunting-suspect.html

DEVELOPING –  A Dallas paramedic was in critical condition after being shot Monday morning and police were hunting a suspect amid an “active shooter” scenario.

First responders received reports about a possibly suicidal man around 11:30 a.m. local time and, when, officials got to the scene, they spotted a man with a rifle who opened fire on authorities, FOX4reported.

A statement from the City of Dallas said "a Dallas-Fire Rescue EMT unit was struck and an EMT Paramedic was injured." The paramedic, who was identified as a firefighter in initial reports was undergoing surgery. Authorities considered the shooting area an "active scene."

The paramedic's condition wasn't immediately known.

Police were surrounding a home across from the Dallas-Fire Rescue academy, WFAA reported.

Area residents were asked to take cover.

I was listening to 101. 5 a few months back, maybe longer, volunteering firefighter called in. Said his guys were getting vests.

 

Time to make sure they are protected. Give them vests.

You can't rationalize with crazy, or fix stupid. 

I wonder if this correlates with officer involved 15 yr old.

2 hours ago, Zeke said:

I was listening to 101. 5 a few months back, maybe longer, volunteering firefighter called in. Said his guys were getting vests.

 

Time to make sure they are protected. Give them vests.

You can't rationalize with crazy, or fix stupid. 

I wonder if this correlates with officer involved 15 yr old.

I don't know how I feel about vests.  If I'm in a situation where I might need one, then I'm waiting for PD to clear the scene. If I'm in a situation where they're not, then it's probably sitting on the truck.   the only situation I can think of is MC with Active shooter. 

Wouldnt have helped in this case. 

On 5/1/2017 at 5:58 PM, voyager9 said:

I don't know how I feel about vests.  If I'm in a situation where I might need one, then I'm waiting for PD to clear the scene. If I'm in a situation where they're not, then it's probably sitting on the truck.   the only situation I can think of is MC with Active shooter. 

Wouldnt have helped in this case. 

How do you know what the situation will bring?

5 minutes ago, Zeke said:

How do you know what the situation will bring?

You don't. Which means you're stuck with Sophie's choice: wear a vest for all calls, wear it for none, or don it based on the report/call type and hope. 

Is it not better to have, versus to need?

Should certainly be on the rig.. If you get reports of an armed suicidal man, thats probably the type of call where you'd throw one on while en-route or before heading out to the call.

 

20 minutes ago, Zeke said:

Is it not better to have, versus to need?

Have, sure. It's the decision to don or not that's key. They don't do any good on the rig. On the flip side,  wearing them all the time is unrealistic given that most calls, on the fire side at least, require other PPE. I would not want to attempt to wear both sets. 

8 minutes ago, Lambo2936 said:

Should certainly be on the rig.. If you get reports of an armed suicidal man, thats probably the type of call where you'd throw one on while en-route or before heading out to the call.

 

Potentially. But that's also the type of call where I would want PD to clear the scene first. 

2 minutes ago, voyager9 said:

Potentially. But that's also the type of call where I would want PD to clear the scene first. 

Clearly someone messed up this call, unless i misread...Call was about a suicidal man. The second i heard that i'd want PD to clear.. Texas isn't exactly NJ, far more people have guns there. I'd imagine a gun is the go-to method of suicide down there.

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