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Important Message:

In the event of a state government shutdown, no NICS checks will be processed on Saturday, July 1, 2017. In addition, for the week of July 3, 2017, with the exception of the July 4th holiday, NICS checks will be processed on a limited basis in the order that they are received. Thank you for your patience and understanding.

 

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/07/christie_orders_shutdown_of_non-essetial_nj_govern.html#incart_2box_nj-homepage-featured

https://www.njportal.com/NJSP/NicsVerification/

 

Hope no one had their sights set on a new addition to the family today. 

1 hour ago, mattm754 said:

 

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/07/christie_orders_shutdown_of_non-essetial_nj_govern.html#incart_2box_nj-homepage-featured

https://www.njportal.com/NJSP/NicsVerification/

 

Hope no one had their sights set on a new addition to the family today. 

Wow, looks like the Shutdown is in effect.  Fox News is running a "stock ticker" line on it.   What happened? Were they not able to pass a budget or any CR's???

 

48 minutes ago, HBecwithFn7 said:

Wow, looks like the Shutdown is in effect.  Fox News is running a "stock ticker" line on it.   What happened? Were they not able to pass a budget or any CR's???

 

what happened? they spent too much time debating, deliberating and authoring the law to allow us to have fun with sparklers and forgot to look at the clock. no budget but we do have sparklers.....

2 hours ago, HBecwithFn7 said:

Wow, looks like the Shutdown is in effect.  Fox News is running a "stock ticker" line on it.   What happened? Were they not able to pass a budget or any CR's???

 

I don't know if NJ has CR's? The Feds do and perhaps other states  but  I *think* in NJ it is pass a budget or bust. They did learn a lesson from the last shutdown with Corzine, the Casinos are open. And with the 4^th of July on Tuesday most folks will probably roll the 3^rd into a long week and not even give a shit or realize there is a shutdown next Wednesday (if it goes that long) when they try or need to conduct state business.

1 hour ago, siderman said:

what happened? they spent too much time debating, deliberating and authoring the law to allow us to have fun with sparklers and forgot to look at the clock. no budget but we do have sparklers.....

you broke the code it’s easier for the DEMs to grandstand on Pot, sparklers and more stupid gun laws than is it to actually tackle any of the real problems in this state. this should be fun to watch...

Another reason why not using the FBI for NICS is effing stupid.  

15 minutes ago, Rob0115 said:

Another reason why not using the FBI for NICS is effing stupid.  

Cmon now. They still do. We call the state, then the state calls them. A pillar of efficiency.....

4 hours ago, Rob0115 said:

Another reason why not using the FBI for NICS is effing stupid.  

But they do use the FBI, They just prefer to make the call to the FBI on behalf of the FFL. This, of course, to enforce State firearms laws (most likely, OGAM in NJ's case).  Ah, the joys of being a "POC"  (Point Of Contact) state.

FL is also a POC state as well, via the FDLE.   In FL (as opposed to NJ with the NJSP), patrol and investigative divisions at the state level are separate.  The FHP does the patrol, and the FDLE does the detective/investigative work.

I get they use the FBI and should have been more clear by saying directly. 

But they do us the FBI, They just prefer to make the call to the FBI on behalf of the FFL. This, of course, to enforce State firearms laws (most likely, OGAM in NJ's case).  Ah, the joys of being a "POC"  (Point Of Contact) state.
FL is also a POC state as well, via the FDLE.   In FL (as opposed to NJ with the NJSP), patrol and investigative divisions at the state level are separate.  The FHP does the patrol, and the FDLE does the detective/investigative work.

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Do we have a no answer rule in NJ? Isn't Fed if no answer in 5 days an automatic clearance? I'm sure we don't in NJ but figured I would ask.

 

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if this lingers through the holiday, we should sue. complete and utter bullshit. dems bankrupt the state, can't pass a budget, and as an added bonus eliminate the 2nd amendment? it cannot stand. there's a similar situation happening in the northwest (washington state i think). if the state wants to meddle with the nics process, then they need to make sure they can do it. otherwise, relent to the fbi

The progressives have thought of everything. 

Bankrupt the state, close the state parks on the holiday that celebrates our independence, and shut down the already unconsititutional "mother may I" system we are forced to use to exercise our rights. Imagine if this happened on Election Day... oh that would be racist. 

Citizens should charge the gates at state parks. 

I wonder how many speeding tickets are being written by njsp this weekend. 

Essential. 

Geezus we are a joke. 

Come to think of it, these are nothing more than sanctions against the citizens of NJ. It only hurts the citizens, not the elites that were elected under the guise of being the "people's servants."

it doesn't surprise me that they try. It surprises me that they succeed. 

This shit had never workes out for republicans. Even Gingrich's was ill advised. 

When will we learn. The only winner in this is Murphy. 

 

Christie has Island Beach all to himself. Lol

70+ items on chopping block if Christie doesn't get horizon money.

i say chop em! This state spends too much of my money as it is. And remove point of contact for nics. And, and,.....

Will the 2A groups or Nappen file a federal lawsuit seeking relief for 2A violation? I would think a federal judge could force NJ to either open NICS or use Federal System directly.

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23 hours ago, Zeke said:

Cmon now. They still do. We call the state, then the state calls them. A pillar of efficiency.....

The role the state police plays in all of this is exactly equivalent to Sigourney Weaver's character Gwen, on Galaxy Quest.  Mindlessly passing information back and forth, while adding no value.

Not familiar with Gwen?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKjo9dldp2g

25 minutes ago, 10X said:

The role the state police plays in all of this is exactly equivalent to Sigourney Weaver's character Gwen, on Galaxy Quest.  Mindlessly passing information back and forth, while adding no value.

Not familiar with Gwen?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKjo9dldp2g

Nope, familiar. Tim Allen 

28 minutes ago, 10X said:

The role the state police plays in all of this is exactly equivalent to Sigourney Weaver's character Gwen, on Galaxy Quest.  Mindlessly passing information back and forth, while adding no value.

Not familiar with Gwen?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKjo9dldp2g

Well, no value to us, the consumers.  But value to the State in that it helps them enforce things like OGAM.

 

13 minutes ago, HBecwithFn7 said:

Well, no value to us, the consumers.  But value to the State in that it helps them enforce things like OGAM.

 

Which is an infringement 

Just imagine if the state shut down or even slowed the processing of welfare checks!  That is right, they would burn down the four big cities and riot.

The last time this happened, Corzine ordered the 45,000 furloughed state workers to be paid anyway (a free vacation effectively).  He ended up getting the 1% sales tax increase as well. 

Taxpayers always lose here.  

Where is the codified law regarding the NJ NICS procedures? I can only find a reference to Federal Law in the N.J.A.C

 

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27 minutes ago, capt14k said:

Where is the codified law regarding the NJ NICS procedures? I can only find a reference to Federal Law in the N.J.A.C

 

Not sure there is a codified "statute" for it.   It's probably all just NJAC regs, as well as the FBI granting the option for POC states.

They put up a drone to photograph the big guy sunning is fat ass on state park land. There is a pic of him looking right at the drone. Did he think it was an amateur doing that? Then he goes on and says he didn't get sun because he had on a baseball cap. 

As is said when this was looming, republicans are seen as the guilty party. People don't even know who the hell that 70's mustache asshole from the assembly is. 

This helps Murphy. No doubt. 

46 minutes ago, Walt of Destiny said:

They put up a drone to photograph the big guy sunning is fat ass on state park land. There is a pic of him looking right at the drone. Did he think it was an amateur doing that? Then he goes on and says he didn't get sun because he had on a baseball cap. 

As is said when this was looming, republicans are seen as the guilty party. People don't even know who the hell that 70's mustache asshole from the assembly is. 

This helps Murphy. No doubt. 

I'm not sure it helps anyone, but definitely makes him look bad. Like kingly elite bad!

but his approval can't get any worse.

2 hours ago, Zeke said:

I'm not sure it helps anyone, but definitely makes him look bad. Like kingly elite bad!

but his approval can't get any worse.

And a liar.  He's staring at the drone so he's he's being photographed.  Then to go and lie knowing the evidence is there is incomprehensible.   

I can't get over the arrogance, go anywhere but there!  Jackass.  

3 minutes ago, Rob0115 said:

And a lar.  He's staring at the drone so he's he's being photographed.  Then to go and lie knowing the evidence is there is incomprehensible.   

I can't get over the arrogance, go anywhere but there!  Jackass.  

Definitely an FU. But why are we associating ourselves with him? He's no longer conservative. He's slightly pro 2a. And his end, it's all for him. He reminds me more of Florio then Trump

7 minutes ago, Zeke said:

Definitely an FU. But why are we associating ourselves with him? He's no longer conservative. He's slightly pro 2a. And his end, it's all for him. He reminds me more of Florio then Trump

I don't and he's not even slightly 2a friendly-it's contrived because he still has more political aspirations.  My concern is he is the top republican in a tough state to be republican.   Kim G is an underdog and it's as if he's trying to bury her.  I don't effing get this guy at all anymore.  

1 minute ago, Rob0115 said:

I don't and he's not even slightly 2a friendly-it's contrived because he still has more political aspirations.  My concern is he is the top republican in a tough state to be republican.   Kim G is an underdog and it's as if he's trying to bury her.  I don't effing get this guy at all anymore.  

I understand. I'm thinking hard back door. And Kim needs to separate herself. Should actually resign if she wants this.

look. It's supposed to be FUBU

for us by us. Nj residents have a ginormous mess to fix. Including Poc for nics.

most vote with feet.

i predict, Illinois, Connecticut then Nj

with California being last to claim bankruptcy. In time

1 hour ago, Zeke said:

I understand. I'm thinking hard back door. And Kim needs to separate herself. Should actually resign if she wants this.

look. It's supposed to be FUBU

for us by us. Nj residents have a ginormous mess to fix. Including Poc for nics.

most vote with feet.

i predict, Illinois, Connecticut then Nj

with California being last to claim bankruptcy. In time

it's a complicated mess.  BTW, states and commonwealths cannot declare bankruptcy but can default on obligations. Look at Puerto Rico right now.