I've only been a gun owner a couple of years. So, no, I haven't earned your full-blown cynicism yet, LOL. And I'm no lawyer, no legal strategist... I admit that. But, I do have common sense so I ask this: when should an org file lawsuits in your opinion(s)? Should they do it when they know for a fact that BOTH the appeals court AND the Supreme Court (in the unlikely circumstance that they take your case) are knowingly stacked against the case? (Isn't that just throwing legal funds away just to "make the crowd feel good"?) That seems kind of fruitless to me. Or, should they wait... tread water... (while taking the abuse of the critics)... and wait for the judicial picture to start shifting in their favor and THEN start filing with their stockpiled war chest? I mean, did we have a time like this in the past?... Where we had an administration that could not be reasoned with but both levels of court were starting to slide in our favor? Were there prior missed opportunities? Maybe. But I also think "striking while the iron is hot" might turn out to be a very good strategy after all. I guess we'll see. We'll see if there are additional cases forthcoming, and we'll see how the cases progress.

At one point I was on the board of a start-up 501[emoji767]3 non-profit and I can tell you this --- it's a LOT harder, costly and time-consuming to start and successfully run a non-profit org than most people realize. Personally? I think it makes more sense to assess the ones we currently have... and if need be, to cajole, shape or direct them from within. You don't like what ANJRPC or another org is doing? Join, attend meetings, speak out, even get on the board if you so desire. That would probably be time better spent that trying to develop yet another org from scratch. That said, if you guys think you can form a better org --- godspeed. I just think that everyone who complains on here should just make sure to actually DO something (not at all saying that you 2 aren't). I am merely pointing out that - in general - it's easier to criticize these groups then to lend our talents/dollars/time to help them work at their best level. Now - much to your delight - I'm going to shut up, LOL!!

 

 

ANJRPC gets nothing til they file multiple lawsuits and make Scott Bach earn his triple dipping salary.

 

The best time to file would have been as soon as Trump won the election. Kennedy was going to retire last year or this year. He is now retired. By the time the case progressed through the courts it would have taken minimum 3-4 years to get to SCOTUS. Trump was guaranteed to be POTUS for 4 years.

 

 

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On 7/2/2018 at 10:37 AM, capt14k said:

Yet we should all keep donating time and money to fund lawsuits. Even though they won't file the lawsuits that can win and make a difference. They have had 28 years to file lawsuits.
 

 

A month or so ago I mentioned that I'd like to see a well laid out plan, estimated costs, schedules, etc.  Easentially lay out a plan of action in a manner like any major program would be managed.  

 

Others said how this all has to be close to the vest, how they have to wait until the last minute, etc. etc. 

 

IMO both sides know what the other's playbook and planned argument is already. There isn't really much new on either side.  So why not actually excite and activate people to fund these lawsuits and expect results. The issue has been that there's as much infighting on the pro-2A side for not being "pro" enough, and at the same time, not enough of a sense of urgency.  28 years as you say...

If the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

what is the individuals that attack my friend? Hmmmn

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