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Well here it is, all the work we did to get HR 38 through the house will probably be a waste of time if you don't do your CIVIC DUTY NOW. 

Here's a really good video that makes it pretty simple. Don't forget the bill number now is S446. 

 

Mass text and call everyone you know, tell them to do it, tell them to pass the word. 

If you don't want to do this little bit of work your serious a piece of shit. 

 

HR 38 is dead.   we didnt have the senate votes last december and we still do not today.   S446 is a completely seperate bill that never made it through the house, its not a new number or name for HR-38.  Only HR-38 did.

And calling everyone a piece of shit if they dont do what you think is the prudent move... very classy.  Until we can get SCOTUS to rule once and for all that these states, like CA, NJ, NY etc are violating the constitution and get proper CCW shoved down their throats .. you will never see national reciprocity.  

1 hour ago, Lakota said:

HR 38 is dead.   we didnt have the senate votes last december and we still do not today.   S446 is a completely seperate bill that never made it through the house, its not a new number or name for HR-38.  Only HR-38 did.

Very true.

It's been sitting in the Senate, dead since last December. If the REPUBLICAN controlled Senate had ANY intention of passing it, they would have in the last year. Or, since they now know they lost the House to the Dems, they should be voting on it NOW, before January.

Is it on the schedule for the next few weeks?

1 hour ago, Lakota said:

And calling everyone a piece of shit if they dont do what you think is the prudent move.

I also agree with that. Thinking that the peons of the country have ANY input in the actions in D.C. is clueless.

1 hour ago, Lakota said:

Until we can get SCOTUS to rule once and for all that these states, like CA, NJ, NY etc are violating the constitution and get proper CCW shoved down their throats .. you will never see national reciprocity.  

NR was such a long shot... when they tried back in 2013 they didn't have the votes necessary. Now, with the increased focus on mass shootings, there ain't a ice cubes chance in Hell of it being passed in the Senate.

The SCOTUS will never touch the case... just like very other 2A case they punt on..

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, that's just reality folks!

 

1 hour ago, Lakota said:

HR 38 is dead. ...... Until we can get SCOTUS to rule once and for all that these states, like CA, NJ, NY etc are violating the constitution and get proper CCW shoved down their throats .. you will never see national reciprocity.  

Yep, it was DOA when initiated, exactly as you posted, because the underlying issue goes unresolved.

446 would still not allow us to carry here. it's not the same bill as 38. 38 needed to be put through.

5 hours ago, louu said:

 

If you don't want to do this little bit of work your serious a piece of shit. 

 

be glad i was doing this already. 

hooray for more infighting and name calling on our side! gee, i wonder why we arrent getting anywhere

14 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said:

446 would still not allow us to carry here. it's not the same bill as 38. 38 needed to be put through.

Exactly right, the OP needs to go READ S446 before he goes calling others "a piece of shit".

S446 does NOTHING to help us here in NJ. If it was passed, we're still screwed and can't CCW.

 

3 hours ago, Sniper22 said:

Exactly right, the OP needs to go READ S446 before he goes calling others "a piece of shit".

S446 does NOTHING to help us here in NJ. If it was passed, we're still screwed and can't CCW.

 

Equal protections...

7 minutes ago, Zeke said:

Equal protections...

Even if that argument failed there would still be an indirect benefit. When the rest of the country can carry everywhere (including NJ) and the “shootout in the streets, bloodbath” doesn’t happen it really weakens Justifiable Need from a strict scrutiny perspective. 

 

Keep in mind there here were some pretty significant constitutional issues with the bill (mainly State’s rights vs Commerse Clause). This would be fought immediately by states like NJ. I’m sure they’d demand an injunction. No guarantees it would survive even if passed. 

Just now, voyager9 said:

Even if that argument failed there would still be an indirect benefit. When the rest of the country can carry everywhere (including NJ) and the “shootout in the streets, bloodbath” doesn’t happen it really weakens Justifiable Need from a strict scrutiny perspective. 

No shit...

im still trying to wrap my head around the guys that bet the no.. then call for the line. Like they want that to happen.

4 minutes ago, Zeke said:

No shit...

im still trying to wrap my head around the guys that bet the no.. then call for the line. Like they want that to happen.

I was agreeing with you and adding to your argument. Sorry if that wasn’t clear. 

 

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It took me a whole 20 minutes of my lunch break to call Booker, Menendez, McConnell, Trump and the NRA.

Everyone was extremely polite and helpful to take my comments. I'm going to call again tomorrow and everyday for the next few weeks.

I shouldn't have to say this but if you need help finding the phone numbers let me know.

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Also don't forget it was People Like Us that got HR 38 passed through the house. Not the lazy s*** talkers that don't do a f****** thing except complain about everything on this f****** forum.

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