10 minutes ago, JohnnyB said:

Each permit has a unique "control number" stamped into it in red.  Copies would negate that security feature.

Now if NJ only joined the 21st century like the rest of America and used you know... the NICS system. lol. 

For the FFLs, when you call in NJ Nics, do you give a copy of the pistol permit number or no?   

We all know that the pistol permit has been a form of gun control since the advent of NICS, but "running out" is just a total WTF.

The whole thing is a joke... especially living in PA.  Like, you want a gun?  Go to FFL, pass NICS, fill out forms, done. 

6 minutes ago, Maksim said:

Now if NJ only joined the 21st century like the rest of America and used you know.

I was wondering about that, how many other businesses still use NCR forms and dot matrix printers? Hasn't technology made them just about obsolete?

Multiple PD's didn't realize they were getting close to the bottom of the case of forms?

Really? We're to believe that?

 

I'm applying for permits tomorrow even though I am not interested in a handgun right now.There needs to be a class action filed.  Incompetent , corrupt, conniving, colluding statists.   There needs to be accountability.  Fudds  be damned.

2 minutes ago, Underdog said:

I'm ordering permits tomorrow.  There needs to be a class action filed.  Incompetent , corrupt, conniving, colluding statists.   

this....and it needs to be done sooner rather than later. as in....it should already be in the works

13 minutes ago, Underdog said:

Incompetent , corrupt, conniving, colluding statists.  There needs to be accountability. 

Absolutely...

But it won't come from the courts.

Is it time yet?

42 minutes ago, Sniper said:

I was wondering about that, how many other businesses still use NCR forms and dot matrix printers? Hasn't technology made them just about obsolete?

Multiple PD's didn't realize they were getting close to the bottom of the case of forms?

Really? We're to believe that?

 

They call NJSP...

"Hey, we are running low on pistol permits.... send more."

"Sorry, we are very low on them here.  You will get them when available."

I honestly don't think the issue here is the townships... but at the state level.

48 minutes ago, Maksim said:

I honestly don't think the issue here is the townships... but at the state level.

If that's the case, it makes it look even MORE suspicious..

My take on this situation:

The world supply of 4-part pinfeed NCR  (no carbon required) paper stock is finally exhausted.

This type of paper has been used since the 70's and the technology went extinct in the late 1990s.

The printing industry, with so little demand for this type of paper forms, has made the manufacturing of it no longer financially viable.

The state's printing vendor has finally run out of this 4 color/part blank stock and the state, in its infinite wisdon (Not!) has failed to come up with an alternative.

No worries for the state - this just accelerates their ultimate agenda of no handgun sales in the PRNJ.

31 minutes ago, njJoniGuy said:

My take on this situation:

The world supply of 4-part pinfeed NCR  (no carbon required) paper stock is finally exhausted.

This type of paper has been used since the 70's and the technology went extinct in the late 1990s.

The printing industry, with so little demand for this type of paper forms, has made the manufacturing of it no longer financially viable.

The state's printing vendor has finally run out of this 4 color/part blank stock and the state, in its infinite wisdon (Not!) has failed to come up with an alternative.

No worries for the state - this just accelerates their ultimate agenda of no handgun sales in the PRNJ.

The only thing wrong with that is that you can currently go to Staples and still buy a type writer, 3 and 4 part carbon paper and ink rollers for both printing calculators typer writers.

 

45 minutes ago, Sniper said:

If that's the case, it makes it look even MORE suspicious..

If it was just one town, sure... but more than one town?  State.

What I think may have been happening is the state was assuming they would print new permits for the new $50 or whatever the heck it is supposed to be fee.... and did not want to order more of the current permits before having to buy new ones.

8 hours ago, PK90 said:

Since when?

Standard procedure in these parts 

Ok no permit needed just a NICS at point of sale. 

Not to worry, a new batch will be available on January 2, 2020

Perhaps they're laying the groundwork for justifying the $100 FID. "We have to go digital so we aren't denying the comrades'...err....citizens' rights." Pistol permits are a form or register in NJ. With a digital FID they could track purchases with the SBI number on your card. 

 

i called the NJSP today.  They told me they did run out But the new permits are in and available

30 minutes ago, Fattychopmeat said:

i called the NJSP today.  They told me they did run out But the new permits are in and available

Talked to my friend and he said the same thing.

Yahoo. New revolver has been sitting there for waiting for 6 weeks waiting to come home.

22 hours ago, Maksim said:

They call NJSP...

"Hey, we are running low on pistol permits.... send more."

 

The NJSP stopped shipping permits a couple of years ago. Police departments have to send a police officer to Trenton to pick them up when they need more permits.

35 minutes ago, Oakridgefirearms said:

The NJSP stopped shipping permits a couple of years ago. Police departments have to send a police officer to Trenton to pick them up when they need more permits.

Well that’s a great use of taxpayer money.  

15 minutes ago, 10X said:

Well that’s a great use of taxpayer money.  

Yup, and I'm sure it's high on the priority list for a PD..............

7 hours ago, Oakridgefirearms said:

The NJSP stopped shipping permits a couple of years ago. Police departments have to send a police officer to Trenton to pick them up when they need more permits.

Seriously? Yikes

On 6/5/2019 at 10:53 PM, Maksim said:

For the FFLs, when you call in NJ Nics, do you give a copy of the pistol permit number or no?  

I'v not heard of any of my customers having an issue with permits. It might be that some towns ran out early who knows.

 

Also, the towns are changing over from the old style permits to the new style

Possibly some towns waited too long to re-order.......??????

Good Lord the permits are made of paper! Just put some permits under a copy machine.

My FFL has heard nothing about any shortage of permits.

I confirmed.. this was an issue and it’s been rectified.

 

3 minutes ago, remixer said:

I confirmed.. this was an issue and it’s been rectified.

 

Considering how we have to take it:

Make that “Rectumfied”. 

When I got mine years ago, the guy who handles it for my town claimed he never got my reference letters.  Luckily I came in person to follow up and spotted the letter right there in front of him on his desk.  He didn't seem like he had an agenda either....just busy with other duties I suppose.  I didn't think he was purposefully stalling because he suggested I get two of them and he would extend the validity right on the spot.  I didn't get another because I couldnt afford a second pistol at that time (even extended).  I kick myself for not scraping up the cash back then.

Now I don't bother because of the process and hassle, I'll have to get by with just my lone Beretta and 10 long guns.

Probably would have to go through the fingerprint hassle too after so much time has passed...60 bucks at some podunk office park.  You would think that a police station could handle fingerprinting, but no.

I wonder if the Honorable Governor Murphy orders a shut down over the budget dispute how will this effect the permitting process? Has anyone been through a shut down while waiting for their permit?

Screw Nut Bolt Hammer Wrench  (permissive) permits and socialist Democraps and RINOs!   Who gave them permission to waft all their crap our way?   We the People need to start a permit system for politicians. 

I recieved my permits from Clark.  No mention of shortage of permits.  From what I can see I recieved them 37 days after everything was returned to Clark PD. Tbey usually issue within 30 to 37 days. Remember late June tbru July is a big vacation month. All considered I think on line system worked pretty well. I have no issues with my town. Very smooth.