Im just going to leave this, here...

 

Ummmm leave what where? 

? Am I missing something?

3 minutes ago, Bklynracer said:

? Am I missing something?

Yes- me too?

29 minutes ago, Franklin Armory said:

Im just going to leave this, here...

 

I like it but do you think it's PRNJ legal the way it sits now?

Da fug. ?

Well, looks like the attachment didnt save, my apologies 

Here is the press release since the original didnt save... (my bad)

 

 

Franklin Armory® V. New Jersey  
 
Minden, NV, October 24, 2019– Franklin Armory® is filing suit in the U.S. District Court for the State of New Jersey challenging the unconstitutional actions of the New Jersey State Police.  The complaint challenges the agencies unlawful prohibition of the Franklin Armory® Reformation® series firearms. 
 
Jay Jacobson President said, “fundamentally, the State of New Jersey has infringed upon our Constitutional rights.  We will never stand by when an agency of any jurisdiction unlawfully restricts our rights or those of our customers.” 
 
This lawsuit alleges official misconduct, negligence, recklessness and/or purposefully, intentional or callously indifferent conduct of Defendants State of New Jersey, New Jersey State Police, Patrick A. Callahan (in his capacity as Superintendent of the State of New Jersey Police), Attorney General of the State of New Jersey, Gurbir Grewal (in his official capacity as Attorney General), and the New Jersey Department of Law and Public Safety (“Defendants”). Specifically, the lawsuit claims that Defendants have violated Plaintiff’s constitutional rights and caused irreparable damage to Plaintiff by improperly, and without legal justification, preventing, precluding, and delaying the lawful sale of lawful firearms within the State of New Jersey. 

Good on you !  I wish you and your suit the best of luck.

What did the state opinion was prohibited?

Is this an Assualt weapons ban challenge for SBR's

Is the State of New Jersey not upholding a contract of sale with you?  Are they holding out for a better deal with another company?  I don't  understand the context of the situation.

I would like to buy a vowel, please.

May heaven bless all your efforts, and may you give the government of New Jersey a fonging from which they never recover. 

1 hour ago, Franklin Armory said:

 The complaint challenges the agencies unlawful prohibition of the Franklin Armory® Reformation® series firearms. 

This is what the suit is about. It's right in the press release.

Good luck, @Franklin Armory! Go get 'em.

15 minutes ago, Mrs. Peel said:

This is what the suit is about. It's right in the press release.

Good luck, @Franklin Armory! Go get 'em.

So they are suing because they can't sell SBR's? 

If so I applaud the effort.

15 minutes ago, JackDaWack said:

So they are suing because they can't sell SBR's? 

If so I applaud the effort.

The Reformation series of guns are not SBRs.

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Here's an article that expands a bit on the topic...

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/franklin-armory-sues-state-of-new-jersey-over-refusal-to-allow-sales-of-reformation-series-guns/

 

So there suing over their non-rifled barrels..

 

5 minutes ago, JackDaWack said:

You can buy a 7.5" AR-15 with a stock  and it's not classified  as NFA?

Correct. The barrel has straight rifling so it isn’t a rifle or a shotgun.

In April of this year (2019) Franklin Armory started taking orders for NJ residents. I didn’t hear that their certification was denied until this thread.

 

1 hour ago, Mrs. Peel said:

Here's an article that expands a bit on the topic...

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/franklin-armory-sues-state-of-new-jersey-over-refusal-to-allow-sales-of-reformation-series-guns/

 

Thank you for the additional information.

Give em hell Franklin, and my apologies for the state using my tax dollars to harass you.  Interesting holes in that pic up above lol.

Shame we have to waste tax payer money on shitty politicians and law enforcement doing whatever they say.

Surely there should be others.  Why not have a class action law suit against the Republik?   Franklin, reach out to other businesses.  

5 hours ago, Underdog said:

Surely there should be others.  Why not have a class action law suit against the Republik?   Franklin, reach out to other businesses.  

I'm not sure anyone else is using smooth bore barrels... 

 

But give them hell! Maybe I will buy one of there rifles just to support them. Screw this state!

1 hour ago, JackDaWack said:

I'm not sure anyone else is using smooth bore barrels... 

 

But give them hell! Maybe I will buy one of there rifles just to support them. Screw this state!

It's not a rifle!

It's not smooth bore either.  It's rifled, albeit straight rifling!

3 hours ago, tomk62 said:

It's not a rifle!

Can't buy those ones 

New Ruling by the ATF on it:

The Franklin Armory Reformation is the first firearm produced and sold by an FFL that ATF has classified as a GCA/SBS. Because GCA/SBS firearms have not previously been available in the marketplace, existing federal firearm regulations do not provide a mechanism to process or approve requests from FFLs for approval to transfer a GCA/SBS to a non-licensee pursuant to section 922 (b)(4) or requests from non-licensees to transport a GCA/SBS pursuant to section 922(a)(4).

ATF is currently developing the procedures and forms to address this new type of firearm. Once promulgated, these new procedures and forms will provide the mechanism necessary for FFL holders and owners of GCA/SBS firearms to request the statutorily required approvals. Until such time, you should be aware of the following:
 

1. An FFL may lawfully sell/transfer a GCA/SBS, such as the Reformation, to the holder of an appropriate FFL (a GCA/SBS cannot be transferred to the holder of a type 06 or type 03 FFL).
    
2. No mechanism currently exists for ATF to authorize a request from an FFL to transfer a GCA/SBS, such as the Reformation, to a non-licensee. Therefore, until ATF is able to promulgate a procedure for processing and approving such requests, an FFL may not lawfully transfer a Reformation configured as a GCA/SBS to a non-licensee.
    
3. No mechanism currently exists for an unlicensed individual who possesses a GCA/SBS, such as the Reformation, to submit a request and receive approval to transport the GCA/SBS across state lines. Therefore, until ATF is able to promulgate a procedure for processing and approving such requests, the possessor or owner of a GCA/SBS, such as the Reformation, may not lawfully transport the firearm across state lines.

Any questions pertaining to this Open Letter may be sent to the Firearms Industry Programs Branch at [email protected] or (202) 648-7190.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/open-letter/franklin-armory-dec2019-open-letter-franklink-armory-reformation-firearm/download