Maksim

Looks good, will have to give one a try.

Doing the scores is not the issue I don't think. =P

+1 to the why the ammo? Weird.

The older FDE ones were nice... and yes, were fetching a nice premium, even Glock 37 models, which folks just swapped slides for new calibers. The newer OD ones are fairly dark, I was not tooo in love with the color.

For East Brunswick, yes. Many towns are regularly under 1 month. =) Awesome though. Good to hear more towns are getting on it.

Who just raised their fees?

Boring but stupid reliable, cheap and plenty of accessories? Absolutely. =P

The only issue is... Is the magazines permanently modified to hold 15 rounds or less? Personally, I don't think so, when all it takes is for you to put in a stock XDS follower, or hell, buy a new grams spring and follower kit. Unless the magazine body itself is blocked.... I don't see it as permanently modified. Especially since the body still says 19 and you have to load the mag to prove it does not.

if the listing shows up it means it is not yet sold. =) SEnd the seller a pm.

Was not you in particular. =) But rather it is never gun owner, it is always the cops/government/aliens/someone else but never me fault crowd. =) I personally do believe, his guns were right to be taken away while it was investigated. 1. Guy makes a threat. 2. Has a history of it. 3. Under care of Shrink. 4. Interview with Police, he thinks he needs a shrink. Yes, not an immediate danger, does not mean he is not or can just as easily blow up. When he went and got an opinion, his guns were given back to him. Once again, whats the big deal? He brought it on himself making a threat against someone else. You speed, drunk drive, drive without insurance.... expect to get pulled over. HE brought this on himself. When it was clear he was better or now fine... he got his guns back. Police did not go door to door to confiscate his guns out of the blue. There was a witness to when he made a threat against someone else, WHILE under care of a mental professional. This really is a damned if you do, damned if you don't case. While I wish they were all handled without issues, it just can't happen. And bringing up this stuff, does absolutely nothing but piss off the bunker crowd, and the Everyone against us mentality. People need to think critically, or else we end up with an egg on our face.

... or the danger to his own life ... or the danger to his wife whom he was going through a bad breakup. ... or the tons of lies in the case. ... or the illegal guns As much as I am all for protecting gun owners, we got to pick our battles. Honest hard working gun owners, just don't make national media.

I don't think threating someone's life is "letting off steam." Could things been done better? Sure... but this case is an exception and not the rule. If it was 2 days from the time his guns were taken away, to the time police officer came down to talk to him... i don't think it is a big deal. They did not have to initially charge him. look at NJ Laws... if you are under care of shrink... no FID or has to be disclosed. Who cares what guns they were. They are just as deadly. I really just have an issue with the initial tone of the post, like cops are out to get people. Obviously, this guy was not mentally there if he had seen multiple shrinks, and when 2 days after the police came... he was emotionally distraught. We are chatting about it in chat now.... but we have yet to find one case in recent past of a truly innocent guy getting his guns taken away.

Ok... I can stop banging my head now. I see the people who I think need to crawl from out of the bunker are also people who registered in the past year, and were not hear from the Brian Aitken Fiasco. Guys... trust me... most of these "2a Martyrs" are not. The gun community is quick to jump someone blindly, and in return are just as stupid as the people on the opposite side of the fence. If you have a run in with police... 99%, you are not an innocent guy minding your own business. I have yet to see one article where the person is truly innocent and the cops came for them to disarm them. As far as the 9 out of 10 cops vs gun guy comment, well no crap.... who else is going to come and take away your guns? Do you want the military to disarm you? Homeland Security? Yeah, it will be your local police, and by default, they are the ones who will get the bad rep. The issue in most cases are not bad individual cops, but the system itself. Let's not hold people at the stake for the problem with the system, if there is one. In this particular case.... the guy is mentally disturbed, by his own account. Guy made a threat against someone's life. bam. he left his rights on the table right there and then.

Lets dig a bit deeper. " After the session, Lovi's therapist was concerned. She called the Arlington Heights police to report he had made a threat against the first doctor who saw his wife. She told them she didn't think he would carry it out or that he was dangerous to himself or others, but she just wanted to do her job and report it. " Guy makes a threat. A doctor is supposed to report it. Police contact the doctor against whom the threat was made.. ""did not feel like his safety was in immediate jeopardy." Ok. "Two days later, Lovi called the police about his guns, and an officer came to his house. He says the officer turned the conversation to his late wife, and Lovi got upset. The officer determined he needed a psychiatric examination, but again, the two reports of the situation differ." Ok, some two days later, he calls, and obviously something prompted a human being to think this guy was not ok. Armed with his release from Northwest Community Hospital, Lovi says he went back to the Arlington Heights police station three more times to try to retrieve his guns and FOID card. On one trip, he was told he had to get a note from the original therapist, whom he was no longer seeing. Later he was told his FOID card had been sent to Springfield, which he later discovered was not true. Two months later, Lovi hired a lawyer, which he found through his membership in the NRA. Shortly thereafter the Arlington Heights police returned his FOID card and the weapons, one of which he said was damaged. Ok, so then he goes gets help, and they were satisfied he was not a danger and he gets his guns back. So.... story..... Guy blames someone for his wifes death and makes a threat against doctor. Police come, they do not think he is ok, and visibly needs help. He goes gets help. He brings note from a doctor that he is ok. He gets guns back. What is the big freaking deal? As far as I am concerned, if you make a threat against someone, yeah, maybe someone should come and investigate and you should not have weapons if you are making threats. Your rights end where my nose begins. John Locke. The guy gave up his rights when he told his shrink he holds guy accountable and whatever threat he made. then.... to get the full picture of his guy may not be all there.... " While on vacation in Florida in 1995, bike police issued Lovi a traffic ticket for $69.50, saying he was speeding and driving the wrong way in a parking lot. Rather than pay it, Lovi flew back to Florida and represented himself in court, arguing successfully the police did not use radar guns and that the parking lot did not have signage to show which way to drive. He traveled 2,000 miles and spent more than $1,000 to fight the ticket — and he won. " Can you say attention whore? Lets be honest... he was speeding and driving in wrong direction and spends money trying to get off on a technicality. How about taking some responsibility?

So stop looking for those stories. It actually bothers me that so many people blindly defend anyone with a gun by going off of any news story.... Remember the veteran who was arrested for trying to stop a reported breakin? In reality and a little digging it was an over zealous dude who hears a bump outside, grabs his ar runs outside of his apartment, points a gun at a guy and shoots in his direction when he started walking away. How about the certain guy who made national headlines here locally after his house was "raided in the middle of the night by swat" when in reality there was more to the story.... Like his wife let them in at 7 pm. Or.... How about the poor innocent guy whose house was entered by the police and super and was arrested for "guns legally purchased" yeah... Wen he lived in PA. Or... How about the poor guy who was tossed in jail and had to have the governor involved when he was arrested for numerous gun charges for moving guns from his parents place to his apartment..... That he had for a long time already, or the guns were not jersey legal, or he had issues with his wife, or his own mother did not think he was mentally stable. Yes... The police were all at fault there. Guys, use some judgement. Do your own homework before passing blanket judgement. The guy in the article had a history of mental issues. His guns were taken. He could not get them,back because he did not have Fid . When he got it, he got them back. A guy who flies 2k miles and spends $1k in fees to fight a parking ticket .... Merely wants attention, especially since he was in the wrong, or looking for someone to blame. How is any of this the cops fault? If anyone it is the people whoe created the rules for the police to follow. Police enforce the laws. It is up to the prosecutor and the justice system to sort it out.

Now if they only made them in Foliage Green. =)

I wonder, was this person really a bad guy/prohibited, a trap, or someone who just does not know any better. I do think, if someone is smart enough to use google to find your listing online, would be smart enough to google gun laws.

If you want to send me a pm with the email address, I can take a look if it is someone who might of register on the forum, for our own protection. I am surprised to hear so many stories about Armslist though. wow.

Could not agree any more. +10000. I don't think it was going there at all. =) Stop poking. =P

So wait, it was 5 rounds in a mag/ per string? And why were the targets moved between strings and for different people?

What town is this? Typical FID processing for new people once all is in, is around 2 to 3 months.. If it takes longer, contract NJ2AS, NJ2as.org. They have been successful in the past. Some bigger anti gun towns, put it this way, an 8 month wait is not unheard of. Call Mayor, Call Chief.

Exactly. Where do you guys live that ammo is stolen? I ordered , before reloading, and never had any ammo issues, or delivery issues at all. Could of it be neighbors? If possible, have packages shipped to your work address. Typically the drivers care a bit more.

No iffs, and or buts.... 1. Spanish 2. Mandarin (official Chinese) 3. Arabic Population trends and where business is moving.

I have seen them on some 308's. But yes, a few factors... 1. On smaller calibers, is it really necessary? Follow up shots on Bolt Action? Not necessary. On larger calibers, a lot of guns do have them.

All parties had been contacted. Closing this for now.