Maksim

http://www.inyork.com/local/ci_14994814

http://www.mdshooters.com/showthread.php?t=33982&page=6 apparently there was a suicide there too?

Ah ok, so it is just this year that sucks then. =) A few people I spoke with, and even vendors there that I chatted with said this show sucked.

Wait, so you are serious that you think that the SAR show is the best on the east coast? I thought you were being sarcastic the whole time. I went to about 5 or 6 shows now, the the SAR show is ranked 2nd from last, just barely beating the one that Anastasia and I hit up near Pittsburgh on the way back from Ohio.... and even that show, had less unrelated products vendors, and instead of them, had 25% of the show full of vendors selling Nazi stuff, all tattooed out in swastikas on the back of their head, and BO to match. The way I look at it, at a gun show, it should be 80% guns, 10% accessories, and 10% other stuff. SAR show, being billed as the biggest, had no more firearms dealers than any Eagle Arms show I went to, and those being up to 400 or 500 tables, but the other 1000 tables at the SAR show are wigs, people asking for money, beef jerky, and different organizations. While walking through any of the isles... in any isle, there were no more than 5 dealers of firearms, with the rest being the accessories and unrelated stuff.

http://www.allentownshow.net/gunshow_schedule.htm check out the site. seems like the newer place? SAR show sucked for me partly because of the drive, and over promised and under delivered. Eagle arms shows and those in bristol were far better. the ratio of crap to actual guns at an eagle arms show was 1 garbage vendor per 8 or so firearms vendors. at SAR, it was more like 1 per 2.... which I dislike. If I wanted beef jerky, I would go to a deli or walmart. The past 2 shows I went to, Split Rock Lodge and Allentown Roadway Inn, both organized by Eagle Arms.... were far superior. More firearms, less garbage, and far better deals. This was the first SAR show I went to, and likely the last.

I think eagle arms will be there too. this is a new facility though?

Is the agg hall show bad? Never went to one.

I would call ahead and find out if it is still there. 22mags are usually there, in CCI 50 round packs.

I can't believe you are complaining about SAR East and yet you promote the shitiest show in the Lehigh Valley. If you hate beer jerky, ShamWow, wigs (in the hairpiece sense), coconuts, hitler cereal bowls, shitty guns actually in PILES on tables, and empty tables, then you will miss SAR East quite a bit. I'm not going to SAR East this year. I don't want anything except a can and a pistol/can combo. I already have lines on those. If I go, I'll end up overpaying for the same silencers I already have a line on. If it was in Allentown, I'd go. It's a great show. I'll probably go to Forks of the Delaware, I go to about half of their shows and just walk by all the garbage. Maybe contact me and we can swing by Firing Line for a little shoot. LOL. I didnt see Shamwow there though.... but the hair wig people were there. After all the people were touting the SAR show, I was pumped to go. But..... it was a bit of a letdown. so this is what valley forge shows are like eh? The smaller shows really are much better for firearms. Forgot to add though, Eagle arms did have a crate of k98's and a few sks's. Noticed them as the show closed. About the jerky.... funny part is, they put 2 of them next to each other. Jerky man was across from someone selling Jack Links jerky. Go to 7-11 or corner deli, prices are cheaper. =)

How the heck do you pick up 4 mosin's in the same week? =) were they homeless?

Gene Solomon Solomon Shooters Supply in Farmingdale, NJ He is open like 3 days a week. The weekend day is Sunday? 12 to 4 for some reason that rings a bell. 142 Yellowbrook Road Farmingdale, NJ 07727-3592 (732) 938-2189

You have plenty of great choices for sub $400. Beretta Neos if you like a video game blaster Ruger 22 Browning Buckmark - very accurate 22lr, very nice gun Smith Wesson 22A. - variety of sizes and variants Stay away from Sig Mosquito and Walther P22 as they are very finicky with ammo.

other items I noticed.... Chinese type 53 for $250?!?!?!!? Polish Mosin M-44 for $350?!?!?!!?!?! Russian non-import M-44 for $450?!?!?!!?!? yeah, crazyness.

this is the next one. Allentown Agricultural Hall 5/8 - 5/9 17th and Chew Street, Allentown, PA $7.00 MAY SHOW (May 8 & 9) Air Conditioned, if needed Friday May 7 - Entry for Table Holders and Life Members at 2:00 P.M. No Public or Annual Members admitted on Fridays. Saturday May 8- Entry for Table Holders and Life Members at 8:00 A.M. Entry for Annual Members at 8:30 A.M. Sunday May 9 - Entry for Table Holders and all Club Members at 8:00 A.M. Opens to the public at 9.00 A.M. Non Members $7.00 Donation Closes at 2 PM - No new entries after 1 PM Ladies: In appreciation of Mother's Day, women of all ages enter free on Sunday, May 9th. Opens to the public at 9:00 A.M. Non Members $7.00 Donation Closes at 5 PM - No new entries after 4 PM From.... http://www.allentownshow.net/gunshow_schedule.htm

why not contact him and find out? =)

And they ADMIT they dont know it all and are always learning...it's the newbies that refuse to understand that they DONT know it all. "The more i know, the more i realize i don't know." I once heard this back when i was a cocky youth that had it all figured out and quickly dismissed it as fortune cookie drivel. Once reality eventually set in, such an axiom was something that i was then guided by and so i was definitely more of a listener after that. Aint that the truth. Up until I started dating someone who worked in the credit derivatives market for Citigroup, I thought I had an understanding of Credit default swaps and other derivatives.... and then I saw their operation.... lets put it this way, in my office of 50 brokers at UBS, I was the only one that had an understanding, and that is after 6 months of being with my ex. lol. Have to constantly learn, and as interests expand, there is more stuff that comes in. That is the beauty of it. I love learning and will be the first to admit I dont know something. There is stuff that you know that you know. There is stuff that you know you don't know. And there is stuff you don't know that you don't know. The last one is what gets people into trouble.

well, no sense in going now.. Is Allentown next weekend? if so i could go Sunday Yes. I am going to start posting the full calendar of shows here like when I did last year.

Sweet, in for 1. 20 guage, perfect for Anastasia. good for trap/skeet?

hey now..... =) Actually, list it, and you can update if you sell it. Like i did.

Honestly, save your gas till next weeks Allentown show. compared to eagle arms shows... this was garbage. Yes, there were a ton of tables, and yes, you did have alot of stuff. Yes... there were primers, components, ammo, etc. Yes, there were $350 Garands (and yes they were guatamalan trash), and yes, there was NFA fun...... but... for every one firearms dealer, there was at least one person selling completely unrelated crap, and 2 people selling beef jerky, or overpriced UTG accessories. there were at least 3 people selling beef jerky, atleast 4 selling t shirts. Ok, the good..... it wasnt that terrible of a show. Sarco was there, but only brought 5 rifles, the rest was parts and stuff. Eagle arms was there with crates of mosins. etc. I dont feel bad I went, but I could of live without it, maybe I am spoiled by eagle arms shows. lol. Didnt pick up any firearms, only a few mag's from Ed's, and some ammo from Walmart (plenty of 9mm for those that need it, I just bought minimags). Had a great time, met a new elderly couple from Scotch Plains looking for their first handguns and rifles, sent them to Anthony @ gunforhire for training, and I am sure you will see them at the Bullet Hole. Plenty of C&R stuff, but mostly Garands and springfields, saw a lot of them actually. turk Mausers, a crate of mosins @ eagle Arms, quite a few sks's in decent condition, some under $350. Otherwise, it was blah. I think the dealers expected bigger turnout. all in all, it is a great way to spend time with the family, and make a daytrip out of it, but there were no stellar deals. ask Away. Addendum: there were quite a few hakim's that i saw people have.... cheapest was like $550 to as high as $750. also, not that many black rifles, but there were at least 1 or 2 vendors that had complete uppers for sale. Lastly, MSAR STG, saw 2 for $1300.... show special. as a side note.... there was theft on day 1.... at least one supressor was stolen, along with something else, so the dealers are on lookout there.

Just be thankful this is not a Honda civic typer r jspec mod 64 forum, yo. We would have all these threads about we raced a toyota camary and totally smoked it., even though they werent racing.

Absolutely agree. A lot of the forums, particularly national forums have this issue. What keeps it down here to a min is the fact that we are a group of local guys, who keep each other honest. Only for so long can you bench race behind a keyboard until you meet that person at a range. On the flip side, I will also say that some of these new people, because when they get dedicated, they spend hours upon hours researching topics, are up there, spending sometimes 5 hours a day on a forum just trying to learn. This is whats great about forums, you have all this information, that is accessible with the search button. No longer do you have to go and meet the person at a range, or visit 20 gun shops and a book in order to learn what makes that rifle as it is. The only thing anyone can do is just to ignore the stupid comments, and it weeds itself out. But let us not forget, with shooting sports, we need those newbies because they are the ones that give everyone else the right to shoot.

yep, their site is down. Surprised they dont have a backup up.... in any case....

I was thinking of leaving around 1pm or so, make it there by 3 and change....

anyone want to go today? =)