Maksim

Rob's testimony was submitted ahead of time. It really was good, however this hearing was not about if this law is consitutional or not, but the hearing was all about how it will effect all parties involved and how it should be amended. this hearing was not about what we think of the legislature, it is about making the best out of a crappy situation. i believe one of the njcsd members recorded Rob's testimony on video. the panel did want to hear how it adversly effects collectors, and shooters amongs us. but they were not going to listen to anything about repealing this law.

trust me, the manufacturers do not pay that much on fedex. those guys have national contracts with them, and pay a fraction of what consumers pay.

i have seen some shops carry makarov ammo. Brick armory had it, and Effingers at one point or another. aim surplus usually has it for very good prices.

lets all write letters? anyone live in burlington? I would be pissed off if my kids were subject to that crap.

a few months ago had the pleasure of going out to dix with tbtrout. shooting fruits and bottles was the most fun we had in a long long time.

welcome. =) do you belong to citizens in west windsor? think i might of seen you. =)

pref outdoor and at Central Jersey. lol.

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2972 this one is better.

the gecco was actually alot more for me. =) reminds me, have to shop my policies.

wish i can help. auto insurance is the one i dont do. =P but, check out Ameriprise auto and homeowners insurance, for some people, they are really cheap. 888-554-6368

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2972 Link above for discussion and summary, locking this thread.

Ok. Just got back from this hearing, and when I left, it was still going on. It was literally a who's who of NJ Gun politics. State senators, attorneys, NRA rep, US Shooting Sports rep, a few gun range reps, and a good number of gun store owners. 4 or 5 NJGF members showed up, Ronover, NJpilot, Johnydamnit, and myself... and apparently a few others whom I did not meet. Along in attendance was Smity, representing NJCSD and a few njscd members. The whole point of the meeting was not to discuss the politics of one a month, which is what the common citizens and NJCSD was there for, but rather to discuss the impacts of One a Month as written right now. The panel did ask questions of people, and by the end of the meeting, did know they have to do something regarding the dealer exemptions, to include manufacturers, distributors, etc... and really took an interest to having a way to do an exemption to collectors and competitive shooters. The only question they had is how to define a collector. Similar programs/laws in Maryland and Virginia were brought up. To get into specifics... here are my notes.. out of order. Consignment permits... to get your gun back. It was brought up numerous times how stupid it is to have to get a handgun permit to get your gun back from consignment. From Nappen, he made a specific point of the wording for hte current dealer exemption. As written into law... "licensed retail dealers" are exempt... problem is... NJ law has an explicit definition of "licensed retail dealer" to EXCLUDE manufacturers, distributors, wholesalers. Btw, Nappen made sure to say that his 3rd book is coming out in October. :roll: The whole overtone was how does the state define a collector/competitor... Carol, who is the president of Citizen's Rifle and Revolver club in West Windsor suggested that one way would be to just have someone present a copy of their range membership card along with FID. What I didnt know, is that a licensed firearms range/club, has to by law submit to NJ State police every year, a list of their members. Next... It was brought up that the FID system is repetitive to the NICS system, and was suggested a few times to reform that. C&R... it was mentioned by 2 attorneys and others that a few years back, the NJSP sent out a notice that anyone with a C&R had to register as a firearms dealer with the state, otherwise, they are considered an unlicensed dealer.... yet.. the law as written right now allows C&R exemption... so those two are at confilict with each other. Otherwise.. its a damn shame... a big hearing, meanwhile only 50 people showed up... at the most, and most of them were there to testify. 800,000 gun owners in the state.

give me a few mins, will sum it all up.

http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/legislativ ... ctions.asp The State House is located at 125 West State Street in Trenton, NJ. The zip code is 08625.

a ninja 250?!?! ninja 250s are great to learn on... then would move to a naked street bike... not really a cruiser, but not a crotch rocket.

anyone have an adress for this place?

was a pleasure to meet you.

There is no remington 9mm 100 packs for $9.97 at wally. Only regular 50 round boxes for apx $9 to $10 a box.

based on hippa, I dont think they can disclose that... ? I am sure they can disclose general stats, as in what % of patients have firearms.

if you paid with a credit card, they may offer a price match benefit in there. call them up or take a look at the card service benefits agreement.

congrats.

send that msg to smitty. I will bring an empty holster.

If you want an HK, by all means save some money and get an HK. and besides, lets be honest, the biggest expense of gun ownership is not the firearm.... but the ammo.

lol @ wolfy. =) I think he meant handgun. At first it was CZ 75, then HK P30l... but now... by far... Smith 1911 9mm Pro Series. The CZ fits well and is a great handgun. The HK would trust in any situation and best overall, but the smith is just a phoenominal handgun and one I most enjoy shooting.

gorgeous. I am actually more and more considering a bike. But I think I will get a basic ninja 250, the new ones are perty.... and then in a year, pick up a monster or a street triple.