Maksim

I just wanted to take a moment and wish a very warm welcome, once again, to Shore Shot Pistol Range! @shore_shot A very cool fairly recently remodeled range and a nice big store with plenty of firearms for you to try! One of the oldest in NJ with plenty for both new and more experienced shooters. I recall coming here after Rays closed up. Also, please visit the vendor page here

Was about to post this. This is a NON ISSUE. What the guy fails to mention is that the politicians that were donated to... ALL SUPPORTED the Knife Owners Protection Act. They gave money as a business to help knife owners. IT worked. All this is is a hype to eat your own. Gun owners need someone to villinaze and today it is Benchmade. God Forbid someone actually bothered to spend 5 mins to research something. https://www.akti.org/news/american-knife-tool-institute-presents-common-sense-award-senator-martin-heinrich-congressman-kurt-schrader/ https://www.wyden.senate.gov/news/press-releases/senators-introduce-bipartisan-bill-to-protect-law-abiding-knife-owners https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/84/committees

More than that, read the filing which included his emails. He wanted to poison the food supply so people die... THAT would then get people to care. Beyond that, he confessed that Gun Owners are not the people that he needed to attract but Religious people. And of course, there were the drugs. This guy needs LOTS of mental health... in the form of a padded room. Or... give him the choice to end his existence early if he does not want to live in this world. As a Jewish immigrant... I fully support the right for white supremacists, nazis and any other people who think Jews are evil to organize and protest. It's their right and this is the price of freedom. It is once they are on the drugs and plan to kill people, i.e. have a plan and are about to.... then we have a problem. So this guy... totally not a patriot... he is a deeply troubled person. And if I may... from a gun perspective, very poorly prepared. And only 1,000 rounds of ammo? That would only be okay if he also had a reloading press, 30k bullets and 30 boxes of primers.

Yes, usually walk in and done within an hour.

Very cool. Thanks for sharing. Do want to pick up some older guns but revolvers are not my forte and generally have as old as 1960s.

Generally it is though. And this is why you develop a relationship with a vendor who can let you know ahead of time or work with you not to waste your time.

Squibs are not as common with factory ammo but they are common with reloaders. A very large chunk of shooters who shoot matches... reload. Most of the time I spend shooting, is matches. I RO'ed everything from local to many years of national matches, running hundreds of shooters for a week straight. You see it all. Heck, I even had a squib last time I was out at the range when the powder measure did not like the new powder and did not meter it well. A squib CAN and often does lead but it also depends on where and how the other bullet is stuck. There are plenty of times where people shoot it out. At close range, one match (national)... a guy shot a target that we suspected but could not stop him in time, there were two bullet holes, one full diameter, and other was highly deformed. Just because we live in NJ does not mean Grizzly bears are rare. They are rare in NJ. Same with shooters... at the regular range... with factory ammo... sure, I agree 100% it is rare. BUT, shoot 50+k rounds per year and hang out with other people who do... you see it happen far more. Granted, I have been shooting for only 15 years, BUT in that time have seen plenty of guns blow up, heck, even a gun lock up on factory ammo when it turned out Winchester did not put the flash hole in the brass case.

@remixer can chime in here but I believe, there was a delay between the holiday and the weather? Generally NICS takes a few mins but at times can take a few days.

Will show you... But so far as an RO in USPSA, through out the years I stopped at least 5 Squibs... believe it or not many at the national matches. A regular no powder squib sounds different, yes... BUT an underpowered charge is very different. In fact, testing my own ammo when I had no lock out die... 9mm, generally around 1150 FPS.... had a few that were barely 600 fps... sounded exactly the same. By Squib I mean any round that does not leave the barrel... And as discussed with steve in chat... quite a few squibs simply get shot out by oblivious shooters. Not every squib being shot ends up in a big blow. Once again, I am not saying this gun blew up BECAUSE of a squib/underpowered charge... it is likely... BUT there was an obstruction caused by something, manufacturing defect or what not.

Steve, Of course it was metal fatigue and it is all Henry's fault and a manufacturing defect. You are right, we do not know that it was NOT metal fatigue... BUT metal fatigue would generally not cause the barrel to bulge. That is what people here are trying to tell you. It is quite possible that there was a manufacturing defect that LEAD to an obstruction, but most certainly there was an obstruction. No one is dismissing a manufacturing defect, not even I... but you are completely dismissing anything that points to the fact that the shooter may have and likely contributed. So along your lines... "You DONT know it was NOT a squib." Btw, I very quickly dismissed the broad "SQUIB" definition as there was most certainly powder in the round... just not enough of it.

Yes. They are looking at it, it has been brought up many times. They were in quiet period (with earnings just released) but I suspect yes.

NEXUS rules and it goes even further and impacts sites like us. We used to be an affiliate for Brownells, but now, anyone that even advertises for them, there would be taxes and all. While bigger companies can keep up, the burden on smaller companies will be huge. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=11&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwi2zrrIjMzgAhVwUN8KHZdBD3sQFjAKegQIChAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.salestaxinstitute.com%2Fsales_tax_faqs%2Fwhat_is_nexus&usg=AOvVaw108_ZmH1fL3c7BlHIe_6_f

I will agree that that is how they would go about it... but you just need to look at how ineffective the SAFE ACT is. From what I understand, the vast majority of people did not bother registering. Then you have states that already said they are not going to enforce national gun control. And quite frankly, do Liberals even give a crap about anything west of the Atlantic/Eastern coastal states and anything west of Colorado?

Agree 100%. This is why the gun side needs to do more to say there are no harmful effects to guns.

Will bring this up in my next call with them. May I suggest do a price request for the gun and see where the dealers end up? https://www.njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/94354-ruger-pc-9-carbine/&tab=comments#

You are assuming people buying this gun already own Ruger SR9... More folks own Glocks. Plus glock mags are hella cheap. Is this an issue that they won't ship mag? I can talk to someone at PSA to figure it out. Don't see an issue with the gun going to an NJ FFL.

great deal!

Thanks Troy. Just to also note, when you put a gun on consignment... yes it is "yours" but in the eyes of NJSP, no it is not. It is on the books of the FFL and if it does not sell and you want it back, you have to do the NICS once again. List it here and become a premier member.

I fly Delta nearly exclusively. NEVER an issue with firearms.

@remixer Did not explode? Do you think EVERY squib ends up in exploded barrels? LOL. Based on where the bulges are, it was not a typical squib, i.e. no powder, but likely and undercharged round that failed to leave the barrel. With him using mediocre ammo, this is very likely. The reason why it did not go real KABOOM is much like a firecracker. I.e. hold one in open hand vs hold one in a closed hand. The SAVING GRACE of that is where the obstruction occurred, at the end of the barrel.... so when it gave out... the weakest link failed to relieve the pressure. (near end of barrel, structural weak link with the dovetail). Lastly, the guy spent how much on the gun? Of course he wants it to be manufacturer defect.... "No, I never shot reloaded ammo I bought from someone." Or perhaps it was an odd lot of ammo he bought at a gun show in those packages? Most of all, once again, HOW THE F DO YOU NOT NOTICE YOUR BARREL JUST RUPTURED?!?!?!!? Did he not look at the front of the gun when he was putting it away? Either 1. He is lying.... or 2. You cannot take anything he says seriously in terms of accuracy, how the gun felt, etc.... WHEN HE DID NOT NOTICE HIS GUN BARREL IS RUPTURED! And while I agree 100% that it may not be a full blown squib, you cannot deny that there was barrel obstruction! The barrel would not be bulged out like that. Heck, it really might have been a cleaning brush left in there or a cotton patch too. Yes, I am sure Henry will take care of him to avoid the potential of bad PR BUT it would be completely unwise to say the shooter had nothing to do with it.

Yup. That will be the ONLY likely way NJ gun owners get their rights back.

Very interesting and surely merits more discussion.

@myhatinthering @Scorpio64 I certainly agree that an experienced shooter WILL notice when there is a squib, but when it is simply and undercharged round it is far more difficult. To give you an example, I had a few questionable rounds that I did not want to pull so simply shot them KNOWING they were possibly squibs. In either case, one of the rounds was not a full squib BUT was undercharged with about 1.5 or 2 grains of powder. The Slide FULLY cycled but the bullet was lodged in the barrel. It did not sound much different. Then, RO'ing USPSA, in most of the times when a shooter would be stopped by the RO when we suspected the SQUIB... RO was the one that was stopping them, NOT the shooter. When adrenaline is going most shooters don't know to stop or even pay attention to recoil... they are too busy aiming and making sure it is downrange. Factor in that this was likely indoor or another public range... I would hardly expect a good answer. Most of all, the guy didn't see that his barrel split until he came home and tried to clean the freaking thing... Do you honestly expect him to keep track of how the gun sounded, and fired? Heck... for all we know the gun barrel split and he shot another 15 or 20 rounds through it then packed up wondering why his accuracy went down, lol. Sorry, if you don't know that your gun barrel blew up... I can't take your gun opinion seriously. Facts are... Oblivious gun owner shooting less than good to crap ammo (Herters, Fiocchi). Barrel is completely bulged. As far as it not blowing up a ton... squibs come in all shapes and sizes... I do think he shot it out and it was not bad as it could have been because 1. it was near the end of the barrel, 2. weakest points there gave way. Very often shooters will just end up shooting a squib out and it entirely depends on the quality of the gun and the barrel whether it blows up or not.

and if you want to play a cluel joke.... drop in an empty piece of brass somewhere in the bag or carry on. lol May miss the flight BUT would be funny. Although... that assumes they pick it up. On at least 2 occasions that I KNOW about... TSA missed a 5" folding knife in my Tumi carry on bag. EWR TSA is however 1 for 1 for stopping me and giving me the riot act for bringing on a 5 pack of safety razor blades for my razor. I think I shared the story but one time flying to USPSA nationals in Vegas, I was running late and had a blonde moment. I did not want my expensive as hell 2011 mags to get crushed so loaded 5 empty STI/SVI mags in my carry on back pack. TSA lady had her jaw drop. The Philly cop was wondering why they were even called as the mags were unloaded. lol. Took down a report, walked me down to get my bag checked in and rebooked for next Delta flight. Got a nice letter from NTSB IIRC, or maybe homeland security? That I was still good to go.

There are "gun owners" and "gun people."