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Exactly, if a civilian where to blatantly ignore a court order or court decision they would be put in jail.

MD State Police to Courts: "Fuck you, we don't have to listen to you!" https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/police-in-this-blue-state-will-continue-enforcing-draconian-handgun-law-ruled-unconstitutional-by-court/ar-AA1kCjcd

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/federal-judges-overturn-maryland-handgun-licensing-law/ar-AA1kju9F

This is actually what I was getting at. Why where mental health facilities torn down and not replaced? Because it is more lucrative to continually treat with drugs. More the 1/3rd of Americans have been prescribed anti-depressants. Many drugs have suicidal or homicidal thoughts as side effects. Big pharma needs to be held accountable, not gun manufacturers. But big pharma will not be held accountable because they are the largest lobbying industry, spending twice as much on buying politicians as the 2nd biggest industry.

Where's the best place to get .308 ammo for target practice?

Didn't realize there was a difference between G2 and G2 Carry Gun. Hollow points are legal to own in NJ, just can't carry them unless going to/from range. If inclined, buy a box to see if they have any exposed cavity. If they do, go to the range it use it, then try something different. Totally legal.

Are you FPC or GOA member? If not, the brace technically probably should not be sold as part of the gun. I'm sure you can figure out ways around this though.

Hmm. Just saw this pic. Looks like the polymer is clear, but makes the top flat. This should be it NJ legal I think since there is no exposed cavity. Firearms Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ's) | New Jersey State Police (nj.gov) 13. I’m not a police officer, are hollow points legal for me to possess? Yes. They are legal for purchase and possess in your home or on land owned by you. They are legal to possess and use at a gun range. They are also legal to possess while traveling to and from such places. Ammunition lacking a hollow cavity at the tip, such as those with a polymer filling, are not considered to be hollow point ammunition. An example of this can be seen with the Hornady Critical Defense / Critical Duty, Cor-Bon PowRball / Glaser Safety Slug and Nosler Inc. Defense ammunition.

Hmm, I can't tell in the pic if there is any exposed cavity or not. Is the top totally flat? Or is the outer portion taller than the inner portion (even if minimal)? The green pic makes it look like it is not flat and that there is a small cavity. The bottom pic makes it look like it is flat.

I'm sure they do. My point was that if it goes to court because of the mags, their argument above either becomes invalid or you could argue that the court has stated that they can't deprive you the benefit of your property and therefore seizing your mags (and arresting you for them) violates what the court said.

So does this mean that if you have mags > 10rds at home, that you can't get in trouble since this court said you can't be deprived of the benefit of your property in regards to large capacity mags? Anyone know of any cases where someone got in trouble just for having large capacity mags in NJ?

Why was Maine shooter allowed to have guns? Questions swirl in wake of massacre. (msn.com) We don't need gun registration; we need psychiatric registration. Not only those who have been committed to psychiatric hospital, but those taking or have taken drugs with homicidal or suicidal thoughts or tendencies as a side effect. Guns are not the problem, mental health and those with issues are. If gun companies can be held liable, pharmaceutical companies should be held liable anytime someone who has taken their drugs with suicidal or homicidal thoughts goes on a rampage. "Authorities at the state and federal level have not said that Card’s history of mental illness should have triggered laws that kept him from owning guns. There was nothing on Card’s record before the shooting that would have kept him from passing a federal background check to buy a gun, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives said in a statement." "Generally, though, not everyone who gets mental health treatment at a facility is considered involuntarily committed. That’s a determination legally made by a court or a board, which then communicates it to another state body tasked with sending that information to the federal background-check system maintained by the FBI. Each state has an agency that should report it, but it’s not legally required everywhere, he said. " "Jonathan Crisp, an army lawyer for two decades before starting a criminal defense practice, said when soldiers are committed involuntarily to mental health facilities by others in the chain of command, it is a “reportable” event under Army regulations that triggers a requirement to alert others, including the FBI. 'If they took him and he didn’t want to go and he refused to be admitted, it’s a slam dunk,' Crisp said. 'This should have been reported.'" Basically this person made several threats that was documented, was involuntarily committed, was supposed to have been reported to the FBI, but was not which allowed him to get and keep guns. This needs to be the focus of gun control laws. Not banning guns, not gun registration.

Take your FPC member velcro badge and velcro it to the velcro on the brace. Eliminates probably cause.

https://www.anjrpc.org/page/ArgumentInCarryKillerAppealOct25 ORAL ARGUMENT TO OCCUR IN CARRY-KILLER APPEAL 10/25 October 24, 2023. The appeal in ANJRPC’s carry-killer lawsuit, Siegel v. Platkin, will be argued tomorrow morning (Wed. 10/25) at the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit in Philadelphia. You can listen in on the court’s live stream audio on YouTube at approximately 11:00 a.m. on Wednesday October 25, by clicking here. Gun owners will recall that, after Judge Bumb’s historic ruling in the lower court earlier this year granting an injunction blocking large portions of the carry-killer law, the State appealed to the middle level federal court, seeking to reinstate the law. At the request of the State, the appeals court partially suspended the lower court’s injunction for the duration of the State’s appeal, thereby reinstating large swaths of the carry-killer law. ANJRPC simultaneously sought to expand the court’s injunction to block more of the carry-killer law. At tomorrow’s hearing, the parties will make their various arguments to the court, which will render a decision at a later date. Live stream here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYD79c6Vyrc

Don't get fixated on the EMP thing. Was just going to store it in one of those bags cause why not, but I guess I won't bother. There are plenty other reasons to need a backup phone with those requirements. What options are available to pay only cash for phone/sim/minutes and be able to initialize when needed (or initialize now and be dormant for long period of time without fees or timing out)?

If I want a backup phone (stored in EMP proof box) to be able to give to family member or friend in case of an emergency, what phones/plans/services are available? Looking to pay cash for everything because if I give it to a friend I don't want my CC to be able to be charged or associated by accident. Also don't want to have to initialize it right away and then pay monthly fees or anything. Basically buy the phone/sim and some minute cards and initialize it when needed. Any ideas?

WTF, he did another 10 day stay though. You'd think he'd learn.

I'd keep it and ask for the Blem price and for a refund of the difference.

This might actually help us long term. This makes proving that there will be irreparable harm from the government easier when 2A lawyers are asking for a TRO or PI against new unconstitutional laws.

I think as long as you do not have a complete lower available (ie does not have an upper on it), you should be GTG. That means if you shoot one of your current rifles and then take it apart to clean it, you would technically run afoul of the law. Basically don't take apart any of your current rifles until that upper is made compliant. Or at the very least tell us that is what you are going to do.

Will prices for common ammo calibers used for military purposes go up? Looks like Israel may allow their citizens to get guns. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israelis-pressure-government-to-loosen-restrictive-gun-laws-amid-hamas-war-it-s-a-pity-it-came-to-this/ar-AA1i7hLU

So then what? Its on the buyer to get the money from the FFL?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/court-stays-ruling-on-california-s-ban-on-high-capacity-magazines/ar-AA1iaKwp "The liberal majority on the court wrote that “public interest tips in the favor of a stay” because “mass shootings nearly always involve large-capacity magazines.” Are these judges idiots? Do they not know about Bruen or read what the Supreme Court has said? Courts are no longer allowed to use the 2 step approach and can't use means-ends for 2A cases. WTF? "In the years since, the Courts of Appeals have coalesced around a "two-step" framework for analyzing Second Amendment challenges that combines history with means-end scrutiny. Today, we decline to adopt that two-part approach. . . . Despite the popularity of this two-step approach, it is one step too many. Step one of the predominant framework is broadly consistent with Heller, which demands a test rooted in the Second Amendment's text, as informed by history. But Heller and McDonald do not support applying means-end scrutiny in the Second Amendment context. Instead, the government must affirmatively prove that its firearms regulation is part of the historical tradition that delimits the outer bounds of the right to keep and bear arms."

If the NICS goes tits up, you have to apply for and pay for NICS and FFL transfer to get your gun back.

I'm a member of both FPC and GOA since before the injunctions. One concern I have is if the PI's effect all Americans or just those under the Circuit in which the lower court ordered the PI? Does anyone know for sure or site references?