RadioGunner

If they go over the 90 days they can go for 120 days total. In reality there’s no time limit as the state isn’t going to enforce anything.

They can’t disobey a court order. The judge’s order is binding on all of New Jersey.

If you do want to go down the road of challenging duty to inform on constitutional grounds, more power to you. But as it is in the letter of the law in many states, you will probably be in jail or at least legal limbo for some time. In other words, it's not a hill I would die on, and if law enforcement really wants to go down the road of violating my rights, I don't want to give them an "out" so they can put me in the wrong.

You can now carry in: Parks, beaches, recreational facilities Libraries and museums Bars, restaurants where alcohol is served (!!!) entertainment facilities casinos (!!!) Private property functional firearms in vehicles allowed Cannot carry in: Airports/public transportation hubs Movie and film sets Medical facilities School grounds playgrounds and day cares Youth sporting events Public demonstrations zoos Interestingly enough, it was found that strip malls weren't really school grounds, and school really was only K-12 and higher ed. At least that's my read on it.

If you hand over your license? The bigger point though, is why give them any "out" to prosecute you.

Not complying with duty to inform in NJ is a felony charge (a "crime" in NJ speak). I am not catching a felony charge for that. If the cops want to arrest me, I am not going to give them a reason to justify it. Cops are trained to spot weapons and in the heat of the moment your shirt may lift up or your weapon may print and there is a good chance that the cop will see your weapon. At that point, since you didn't disclose you already committed a felony, the cop is well within his right to arrest you and then you'll get charged with a felony even if everything else you did was legal.

The Bruen standard is that those historical analogies had to be in effect at the time of the founding. Do we have an example of duty to inform laws from that time period?

Seems silly that people like you who only visit a few times per year will have to spend $200+ just to exercise your constitutional right.

Just one copy since PD is approving.

So yours was done by the courts? Did you get a court order that you have to carry? Does it list the guns?

This is an uncomfortable transition period and I think once the lawsuits shake out and we pass July when everything is in place (in whatever form it ends up) we will have a much better picture. That said, I am glad I did not wait. I knew things would get munged up.

Bear in mind that thanks to A4769 we will have actual duty to inform in July, provided it’s not struck down by courts.

After all this is over we will get back attorneys fees. Several other groups including the NRA and SAF have gotten legal fees repaid.

Good luck at SHOT. I just came back from Vegas (CES). Stayed downtown at Plaza rather than the strip. Smell of weed everywhere now.

In that 3 years we had the bruen decision, which only happened last year.

The only caveat for out of state residents will be the training. The live fire has to be done at a range listed by the superintendent. “administered by a certified firearm instructor on a firing range approved by the superintendent and on the list of approved ranges published on the State Police website. ” But that’s not until July. Plenty of time for court challenges.

TROs are generally not appealable. https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/immediate-appeals-of-temporary-5067258/ The state can try but it is a high bar.

TROs are generally not appealable. They are valid for 14 days and could be extended. This one was ordered to be in force until the preliminary injunction is ruled on. In NY in the Antonyuk case, plaintiffs went straight for PI and not TRO. Suddaby granted the PI and CA2 stayed it pending appeal.

Yes, national parks are protected by the CARD act of 2007 which had an unrelated amendment that guaranteed the right to carry in national parks. Federal buildings including on park property are off limits. A classic example of this is the Liberty bell monument in Philadelphia. You can carry on the park grounds but they do not allow you to carry in the building with the bell. Courthouse bans vary widely. Some states don’t even allow law enforcement officers to carry unless they are uniformed and responding. In contrast, some states allow non LEO citizens to carry in some areas of the courthouse. Some leave it up to the judge. Some like Pennsylvania require courthouses to have lockers to secure your firearm on entry. Other states have different rules for other government buildings. Texas requires any building that is owned by state or local government to allow concealed carry to license holders. I’ve attended conferences held in city owned conference centers in Texas and carried. Some states have “enhanced” licenses that will allow access to certain areas. Incidents with concealed carry license holders are extremely rare. Most of us are law abiding. Texas also has de-escalation as part of their training for their LTC. PA also allows carry in polling places, and some even make it a point to openly carry. NJ and their phony restrictions aren’t in line with most of America.

Jensen has asked for a preliminary injunction rather than a TRO. That is likely why it went to an in person hearing. Judge Bumb really ripped into the defendants. I think it will bode well for us.

You have to file on a date. Common practice is to drop the filing in PACER late in the day giving your opponent less or no time to strategize.

Yes they may have but they really can’t do anything unless they see specifically what’s in it.

Don’t expect it until this afternoon. A common strategic tactic is to save it until the last minute to not allow your opponent time to respond.

Kavanaugh’s comments were a concurrence and not part of the decision.

You would have to have mass disobedience for it to be effective. And we know at least a few, and I suspect more than a few cops will enforce. Probably to bump up their arrest numbers so they can cite it in promotions and performance reviews.