RadioGunner

I think Texas issued mine in 2 weeks. The shooting test was not hard at all.

What’s that form for?

They don't care. Bloomberg money will buy them re-election. That's all they care about.

Correct. I applied to NJSP and they told me to do the prints after I submitted.

Doing fingerprints after the app is not uncommon. I did mine after the app and I’ve been carrying since early October.

This is a good point. You really can’t tell RPO from regular citizen carry. Even in so called sensitive places. So this law will be toothless and unenforceable.

Natural gas. They got LNG from a lot of places including the US

In other countries police lock up their guns in a locker at the station at the end of a shift. They don’t get to keep them after they leave and certainly not for retirement. I’m certain this bill was intended as a trial balloon to see if retired police would even notice. Eventually I know the state will target them. Only a matter of time. Today we the people are being sacrificed to keep the RPO perk, tomorrow it won’t be so easy.

Oh I understand completely. But in NY, sheriffs are refusing to enforce their unconstitutional gun laws. We don't see that in NJ, partially because of the carve outs.

PBA advocated for this, btw. If you listened to the hearing, they willingly sacrificed us so the retirees can keep their perk of being able to carry everywhere. I find the whole thing disgusting. The 2A is for everyone, not just retired police.

That's as bad as open carry.

Appendix carry... ok. I can't do that.

Looks like in #FJD's bill it will be a fourth degree crime. I was close.

Here is the problem. In a carjacking or similar I need my gun QUICKLY. Strong side where I have to undo my seatbelt wastes precious seconds where I can be shot and killed. So I do cross draw and put the seatbelt behind the gun. But even with a garment above it, I am guaranteed to be printing and the gun is guaranteed visible. While I don't want to be a test case I am prone to be being pulled over for all kind of nonsense. One PD in Morris County pulled me over almost daily because their license plate reader used to misread my plate. So with that kind of frequent interaction with law enforcement I am guaranteed that they'll see the gun some day. So I'm between a rock and a hard place here. Yes I know many Jersey cops aren't accustomed to citizen CCW. But they have to get used to it. We can't all hide. And if you have a legal permit and aren't in a sensitive location then even if you get arrested you will win in court. I really do think that we need to get to a place where an encounter with law enforcement doesn't end in an arrest if you are legally carrying.

Which side? Strong side? I have a particular method but I want to know what other people are doing.

What’s the proper method for car carry?

It’s the municipality tax code of the town you live in. Same one that goes on your state tax return.

What is the criteria for Pike being may issue? What reason are they denying/rejecting for?

Pike says they are. I applied online to york and got it approved over a weekend. So if you’re in NW NJ, Pike would be closest but I wanted to take a road trip so I went to York, because at the time Pike wasn’t issuing. Im in the process of getting Maryland now and I actually just got my QHIC certification so I can not only certify for Maryland but also I’m exempt from their 16 hour course. Sadly for work and nonprofit work I travel to CA and CO often and there are no options in those states unless I want to move to Florida.

I can assure you my info is accurate. For the address portion, put whatever is on your DL. Make sure the county you put down is where you live. My town also uses a neighboring town’s post office. I’ve done this for years with the mental health form with NO problems. The mental health in NJ is done at the county level so it all goes to one county adjuster’s office anyway.

Even OLS legal counsel said so. They don’t care.

The PD isn't the problem here. At least with NJSP they have been prompt, polite and efficient. The courts are where things start to drag. That backdating is squarely on the courts.

I thought about doing that. But I don't want a permit that lists guns or has "see court order" on it. So I'll let them have their 2 months. :\ Maybe it's different because my permit in Sussex County is kind of a unicorn where it says "none" instead of "see court order." I know technically I have to carry the order but it makes a difference when applying for out of state carry, where some states will freak out when they see "see court order."

Yes, they are. I called the court to get status updates

Well I knew the PBA wasn’t with us a long time now. No shields, no blue line stickers, nothing for me. They don’t care about infringement and probably like the fact that retired cops keep their privilege above what we have as serfs.