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So is checker getting the ammo?

If checker doesn't take this ammo I will and pick it up at your availability.

Like I said the $50 is worth avoiding problems. I haven't seen the application form in some time. Last time I did there was a block for your agency to list the handguns your agency knows you own. The only ones listed were the two personally owned handguns I was carrying at work when I retired. The qualification form has space for three guns to be listed. AFAIK it doesn't make a difference which ones you actually carry. Of course its a good idea to qual with what you'll carry. LEOSA says you can carry any gun of the "same type of action" you qual with. Doesn't specify what they consider "type of action". For CYA purposes I qual with a DA revolver, a 1911, and a Glock. The 1911 to cover SA auto and the Glock DA. While the Glock is really a striker fired it and AFAIK every other striker fired semi auto is classed as a DA by ATF. That's because when they started importing the Glock there was nothing else that covered it on the import point scheme ATF uses. It may be overkill to qual with two semi autos but that's what I do. When I qual guys, say with a Glock, I caution them that they can't carry a revolver under LEOSA unless they qualify with one.

I am in that boat now. I read the NJ AGs opinion letter on that and find it interesting. The AG recognizes LEOSA for out of state active and retired LEOs but says if you are a NJ resident you have to get a RPO permit. Federal law covers everyone but a NJ resident retired LEO? I am not a legal scholar but how in the hell does the NJ AG get off saying Federal law does not apply if you are a NJ resident? I know some retired guys living in NJ that qualify carry their retired ID and qual record which covers them under LEOSA. I would really like to see NJ prosecute a NJ resident retired LEO who fulfills the requirements of LEOSA but doesn't get a NJ RPO permit. I will admit I spend the $50 and do the quals as it seems like a cheap way of avoiding issues.

My attitude is you should keep a bedside gun in the same condition you would if you were carrying it. If you wake up to a noise in the night you need to make it as easy as possible to get yourself ready. Train like you fight, fight like you train. I also keep the gun in a holster within reach of the bed (I have no small child issues). SA auto would be cocked and locked (springs are springs no taking set issues), DA autos hammer down with safety on, Glocks chambered, revolvers loaded.

There's over 80 years of experience between Smokin' 50 and I and not much difference in advice. A 4" 357 is about the best do it all handgun you can get. A 4" is big enough to shoot well but not too big to conceal. It gives enough barrel for the round to pick up velocity and is common on the used market. The six inch gives a disadvantage as a HD gun as if you get into a grappling match where the BG gets hold of the barrel you're giving him 50% more leverage with that 6". A wide range of ammo is available as factory loads and as reloading components. A Ruger GP100 or S&W L frame would be my first choice. If you want a K frame size 357 I'd look for a Ruger Speed/Security Six (only availble used) over a S&W. The Smith has a better trigger but the Ruger Six is light years more durable than the S& W K frame in documented unbiased tests. I'm not saying K frame S&Ws are junk. My usual EDC is a 2 1/2" S&W Model 66. I usually load it with a 158 SWC +P that gives me almost the performance of a 357 load with none of the problems. I've read that the issue with S&W K frames is use of lightweight (110-125 gr) loads which expose thel area in front of the cylinder to excessive pressure causing cracked forcing cones and flame cutting of the top strap. I shot a Smith Model 19 and 66 into expensive fishing sinkers in a relatively short period of time. These are not issues I've experienced with Taurus K frame size revolvers. I have two 669s a 4" blue and 6" stainless. I've had the 4" for almost 25 years. I paid $85 for it new at the gun club at Fort Huachuca so that was money well spent. So yes I would highly recommend a Taurus. You could probably find a new one in your price range. I own 2 other Taurus handguns and I would buy any Taurus that met my needs.

A lot of people think its so easy, become a LEO and you can carry all the time. I started as a LEO in the 70s. Then you carried all the time. Enforcement of this varied to both extremes from agency to agency, department to department. I know of one guy who didn't have his off duty with him in a Quik Chek in his town that was being robbed by one guy with a knife and he got a 5 day unpaid vacation. The holdup man came nowhere near hurting anyone. He pulled his knife, the clerk emptied the cash drawer into a bag, and the guy left. Nobody got hurt but the cop. The clerk actually knew who the holdup was and he got picked up within a hour the money still in the bag. When LEOSA was passed it opened another can of worms. People who the state said could carry all the time found they weren't covered until LEOSA. LEOs that were not allowed to carry off duty (including a lot of Feds) found they could carry under LEOSA. Keep in mind that although LEOSA may cover them they could still be fired by their agency if they did carry.

Each range has its own rules regarding holsters. If you are concerned with your handgun getting in the way put it away. If you are into tactical shoots were you go to your handgun when your long gun goes dry, malfunctions, or otherwise becomes worthless to you, you need to get a good tactical sling. This is so you can drop our long gun but still keep it with you. People have a lot of different preferences but I have been using the EZ sling from Slingsystems.

No one.

NJSP will also change your address for you on their database which shows all handgun transactions you have made when you change the address on your FID.

Extraction is accomplished totally by gas pressure pushing on the brass.

Trail Boss is between Bullseye and Unique as far as speed goes. I've never used it so I can't suggest anything. It should be good for std velocity loads in 38 spl. I've been reloading almost 40 years. I've used a lot of powders and about 20 years ago settled on these for handguns: Bullseye- for light to std loads. Good for small cases like 380 and 9mm. Unique- for light to moderate loads. Up to about 1200 fps for 357 and 44 mag. Also good for reduced lead bullet loads in 30-30, 308, and 30-06. It can also be used for shotshell loading. W296- for full bore 357 and 44 mag loads. Thos is a ball powder that can get you in trobule using reduced loads. You need to use magnum primers with this powder. I believe its H110 sold under the Winchester label. If I had to get by with one pistol powder it would be Unique.

Judges can't normally be sued for a decision. Otherwise who would want to be a judge. If you're looking for a career as a judge you don't want your decisions overturned as its not something you want on your resume. However DV ROs are in a slightly different category. Granting a temporary RO is just that, a temporary measure. If there are valid reasons the judge will grant it but also want to hear the rest of the story to make it permanent. Yes there are liberal judges (no surprise in NJ) who will give a woman a temporary RO on a flimsy reason because they only see men as abusers. There are plenty of women abusers out there also. As Kpdpipes said a good judge will listen to the facts and only issue a temporary DV RO if there is DV.

That would depend on the state. There are NJ COs on this forum that speak of their off duty carry so its not them. NY COs can carry off duty so its not them either. I knew a guy in PA who was a CO in a state facility and he wasn't allowed to carry off duty and needed to get a carry permit to do so. That was over 10 years ago and I'm not sure now what the situation is there. Don't get wrapped up in a title aas I'm sure there is somewhere a "prison guard" can carry all the time. AFAIK there is no one in NJ with the title of "prison guard". People may refer to them as that but that's not their title. LEOs get carry authority from statute and agency policy.

I think I can straighten this out now. Active COs carry off duty with statutory authority and out of state under LEOSA. Retired COs can get a Retired Police Officer permit from NJ and carry out of state under LEOSA. AFAIK active LEOs will not be issued a carry permit by the state. That would create a conflict with their official authority. Retired LEOs get a RPO permit based on their former employment. These are issued by NJSP. There is no requirement to show need and no police chief or judge involved in the process. Retired LEOs can carry out of state under LEOSA.

This isn't going to blow over on its own. There is no valid comparison between the problem with Mexico and Irish and Italian immigration. Mexicans are entering the country illegally, get health care and whatever they can out of the system, take jobs, send as much money as possible back to Mexico, and hope to save enough to take it all back to Mexico. The Irish and Italians came here legally, sent money home so their relatives could immigrate, spent most of their money here, and were here to stay and cast their lot in becoming part of the American dream and may have wanted to go back to the old country for a visit to show everyone how successful they were. The issue with the Irish and Italians (and a lot of other ethnicities that immigrated to to this country) is the "native born" white Americans felt they were stupid and unable to make any contribution to this country and just here to suck off resources. Don't compare them to what the Mexicans are doing.

NHornaday lead bullets are swaged AFAIK. That means they're on the soft side. You'd be better off keeping these down to a 1000 fps using a faster powder like Unique. Gas check bullets work well but there is a down side. If buy them with the gas check already on they are about the same price as jacketed bullets. Its not much cheaper putting your own on. You may as well buy jacketed bullets. Google lead bullets and you will find some commercial casters offer bullets in different hardness. I load these hard cast bullets to about 1400 fps with no gas checks and minimal leading. This is using a slower powder like W296. Velocity is not the biggest bugaboo that causes leading. The usual two reasons for a load leading badly is undersized bullets and too high a pressure for the hardness of the bullet. Your bullet should be at least .001 bigger than your bore or .358 for a .357. Some people will go bigger than that. A bullet that doesn't upset and fill the grooves tends to rattle down the bore causing leading. If the bullet is too soft the pressure deforms the base and causes leading. It can also cause poor accuracy. You can go to a harder bullet or use a gas check to protect the base or you can reduce the charge of that powder to reduce pressure. High pressure and high velocity are not always related. If you look in Lyman's (because they give pressure figures) and look for two loads using the same bullet giving the same velocity say with Bullseye and Unique you'll see the Bullseye load (faster powder) gives a higher pressure. If you use a gas check you can shoot cast bullets in rifles well over 2000 fps. Hope this helps in figuring what you want to do.

Beretta has had the tilt barrel on its little 22s and 25s for some time now way before they made them DA. This is worthy of mention as your manual of arms is different if you get a misfire or feeding problem. The reason for the tilt up barrel is there is no extractor. Without the tilt up barrel there is no way for you to get the round out of the chamber. If you hit the barrel release many times the chambered round will come flying out or at least stick out enough so you can pull it out. Sometimes you need to use a fingernail under the rim or in the extractor groove. If you get a failure to fire you should just tip up the barrel to extract the round. A natural reaction is to pull the slide back. DON'T DO THAT! If you pull the slide back while the barrel is up the front of the slide will come off the frame as it does for disassembly. If this happens in a SD situation you are better off dropping the gun and going to plan B or C. You can avoid about all these problems if you use quality std velocity ammo if you use the gun for SD. Hi velocity ammo screws up the timing of these Berettas and results in failures to feed. I use CCI target ammo or Federal target. Both std velocity. You also need to keep the gun clean. Remove the slide and grips and clean the gun with Gunscrubber or give it a bath in mineral spirits and blow it out with compressed are. DO NOT THINK OF DETAIL STRIPPING! I'm generally against it anyway but compared to a 1911 trying to put one of these guns back together is like doing the same to a watch. Hope this helps some.

I have a few of these types of guns. While many bad mouth them I go along with Skeeter Skelton who said "nobody wants to get shot even with a 25". You may be able to bluff your way out of a situation. If you find yourself having to use one for SD the best way to employ it is to keep shooting until your opponent goes down or you run out of ammo whichever comes first. Don't double or triple and then observe. The good ones (like the Berettas) are very accurate if you can learn to deal with the tiny sights and short sight radius. Using a Beretta 21 or 950 I could shoot a max score on the qual course I fired at work. FWIW I find the 21 runs best on standard velocity 22s.

I believe COs can in NJ. There's a few on the forum so I'm sure they'll chime in on this.

You are 100% correct. Went to on demand to check. Aircraft in show is Canadian registration. AN2s have portholes.

Can't probation officers carry in NJ? They do just about everywhere else.

I'm not usually one to care for sci-fi but I got to like FS last season. Yes its a rehash of the alien invasion like War of the Worlds or Independence Day but it has its own twist as the patriots are fighting as guerillas. The fact they touch on logistics missions for food, ammo, gas, vehicles, etc make it more realistic as these would be genuine concerns. I would think that M16s would be much more prevalent than the AKs. I don't think production cost is a factor as they only need a handful of blank firing ones as the rest of the people are just walking around with resin replicas. There are undoubtedly many M16s and AKs in movie gun houses just from the Vietnam movies they've been making for over 30 years. I think the biplane in the most recent episode is a Russian AN2. Did anyone get a better look at it?

Not splitting hairs. I said what I said and you said something different. I can guarantee you don't sleep with me. I don't do that. Never claimed you had to distinguish between my priorities and cares. You sound a lot like some others who like to project blame on anyone but yourself. You say something and then claim you never said it. You twist it and try to blame someone else. Have a nice life with your surpressors and lock boxes at the courthouse.

Okay dude, you did twist it. I said surpressors weren't my first priority. You said I didn't care. Don't try to untwist your twist. Most of us have other priorities and responsibilities to meet.