GRIZ

I can't see how lockers that are locked and opened only by the person renting them would be a PITA. I believe it was the 24/7 accesst that was a PITA. Those lockers were there and you signed a form releasing them from any liability if the place burnt down or someone torched through to get your stuff. I remember the lockers you're talking about but I was referring to a more like a safe deposit box thing they did for a short time.

What if the range had some sort of locker you could store your gun in? This apparently would be legal. Ray's in North Plainfield used to rent out storage lockers where you could leave your guns and gave you 24/7 access. They never touched the gun you locked it up and retrieved it yourself. Many people used these for the reasons the OP stated. They stopped doing it, according to what I was told, because it was a real PITA for them and not many were wiling to pay the price. What happens if you just drop the gun off at SS for a cleaning or sight adjust? There is no transfer for that, is there? No transfer but as a gunsmith would they have to log it in and out AFAIK.

Posted Today, 08:43 PM GRIZ, on 26 July 2011 - 10:22 PM, said: I'm being overly generous here. I've seen rounds (7.62 NATO) go 50' but the velocity would be something like me throwing it at you. Too many people think that small arms ammo would kill everyone in a half mile radius. There's more danger of a cut from a ruptured case than from the projectile itself. 0 True. Possibility a burn as the projectile (bullet or cartridge case) would be a bit hot.

I'm being overly generous here. I've seen rounds (7.62 NATO) go 50' but the velocity would be something like me throwing it at you. Too many people think that small arms ammo would kill everyone in a half mile radius.

But when it really comes down to it, if it is not a commercial structure, the fire marshal will likely just say "Well, if it ever catches on fire, we just wont put it out." or something of that nature. I am not a firefighter and have never played one on TV or on the internet. I have observed the results of ammunition cooking off from 22 LR to 175mm gun powder canisters and the following has been my observations. When metallic ammo is in a burning structure cooks off due to the heat the cartridge is not contained so the round goes off without much pressure being built up and usually doesn't travel far. The liklihood of it injuring someone is small and bunker gear would provide protection as its pretty heavy stuff. A cooked off round may break skin 50-100' away but most likely will not penetrate. The most likely injury is getting hit in the eye with a cooked off round and that can do serious damage. Something like a 50 Browning round going off will do more damage at a greater range than a 357 or 45 acp. I have seen lead bullets melt in the case before the powder went off. A 175mm powder canister is another animal. You have 99 pounds of powder contained in a metal cylinder with a screw on cap a one end (the weakest part of the container). If a powder like this cooks off it blows off the cao and takes off to travel several hindre feet. The canister weighs maybe 35-40 pounds and can do significant damage on the way up or down. This was the reason driving the powder truck in a convoy in a combat zone is only one step below a gas truck. Smokeless powder tends to flare up rather than explode. If you keep it in factory containers the pressure will be released early minimizing the flare up.

I smacked mine with a rubber mallet Or use a brass or nylon drift and mallet. Either of these methods but it might take you a few tries to get it right. I've used the sight adjustment tool for my SKS as you have a pusher which can be used for windage and a tool for elevation. Just remember when you are making adjustments with teh front sight you move the sight in the opposite direction you want the round to go. Need the bullet to go left, push the front sight to the right, need the bullet to go higher, lower the front sight.

Super Colibri is very quiet in a rifle but you'd have to feed one at a time.

As far as I know you would still have the duty to retreat into your house. you do have a duty in NJ to retreat into the home The use of force training materials for Retired Police Officer training says you do have an obligation to retreat from any encounter when less than lethal force is being used against you but you do not have to retreat if someone is using deadly force against you. I do think this would be the same for everyone in NJ who is not a LEO. If you run into the house you do not have an obligation to retreat from any force if you are in your own home.

The key word here is Assailant. Even if the person stealing your stuff from inside your home isn't an assailant yet, once you demand they disarm or withdraw and they do not, they become an assailant. I agree with this but the question asked was "to protect premises or property". If the BG is not an assailant and not trying to enter your home, your options for use of force are more limited. There are many people sitting in jail throughout the country who shot at someone trying to steal their car, bike, etc. without being an assailant. recall seeing in the Connecticut laws on using deadly physical force that you could, for example, shoot someone who was trying to burn your house down. This would have legal in NJ some time back also. It was also legal to shoot fleeing felons in NJ at one time.

Is the use of lethal force in defense of "premises or personal property" even legally acceptable in NJ? I would expect NJ to string you up if you use lethal force to respond to anything less than an imminent, lethal threat to yourself or someone else. Use of deadly force top defend premises and property only is not acceptable anywhere I know of. Lethal force can only be used to protect yourself or someone else from serious bodily harm or death.

Also, it's a bit difficult to keep blazing away with the long d/a trigger pull of a revolver Not if you know how to shoot a revolver.

I went through this time and it seemed to me most owners of "assault weapons" did thinkthat the law was going to overturned. I fixed what I was trying to say. What do you think would happened if you filled out the application and submitted? Do you think there is a slight chance one might get it approved? I think in the past over 20 years the law has been in effect someone may have tried this. I don't know if anyone was successful but I kind of doubt it.

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/06/04/nyregion/new-jersey-assault-weapon-ban-nets-one-gun-and-many-appeals.html According to the link above there were 355 registered operational and 191 registered disabled. I went through this time and it seemed to me most owners of "assault weapons" didn't think that the law was going to overturned.

IIRC there were less than 400 guns that were registered operational in the entire state.

I'd disgaree with you on these points Maks Buying new = guaranteed loss. (depreciating asset) That depends on how long you keep them and how you take care of them. For example I have a S&W M64 in excellent+ condition I bought new for $135 in 1974. Also have a Combat Commander (could use a refinsh, have had internals rebuilt once) I paid $175 for about the same time. buying used = merely exchanging one asset (cash) into another AFAIC most prices on Gunbroker are very high although you can recoup your money if you do with them as I said new ones. Ammo, shooting range fees = expense This is little consideration for many who buy a firearm for SD they buy the gun, shoot it a bit, maybe get a little instruction, and keep it in the nightstand for the nexr 40-50 years. I bought a Model 36 S&W from a dentist who bought it during the riots in the 1960s and a box of WW RNL ammo with 10 rds missing. It was as new. He asked for $100, I said it was worth more but he responded he wanted to get rid of it and had only paid $65.

A simple form needed to be filled out. No sign off by Superior Court Judge like MGs. You could register your "assault weapon" as being operational or disabled. I will post a copy of both registration forms shortly. PK90, I think the OP was referring to how to legally aquire an assault weapon in NJ now. That is contained in: N.J.A.C. 13:54-5.2 License to purchase, possess or carry a machine gun or assault firearm Click the link below and go to the bottom of page 31. http://njsp.org/info/pdf/firearms/062408_title13ch54.pdf

As I understand it, the better quality stainless steel won't attract the magnets. I understand that this has to do with the alloys, but I am also not an expert on metals. I have however been taught that high quality stainless steel will not attract magnets. This is correct and I'm not a metallurgist either. The only firearm I have ever seen made from non-magnetic stainless is an early (1965-66) S&W Model 60. Somewhere, early in the production run, S&W changed to a magnetic stainless. The non-magnetic stuff tended to wear out tools much more quickly than other steels and the change was made to lower production costs. There may be some other guns made from non-magnetic stainless but other than the early 60 don't know of any. The only issue I can see with these gun magnets is: 1. Your firearm will eventually be magnetized. You can use it to pick up nails then. 2. Don't know if magentizing metal alters its strength characteristics.

He said back in the day (he said he retired in 1993), that you could apply for a permit to own assault weapons, and that to qualify you needed to be able to get a handgun permit. If you dig through the law I believe a "permit to own an assault weapon" does exist. However, it is the same process one would go through to own an automatic weapon and we know how many of those are in private hands in NJ. The only thing an handgun permit would have to do with it is: 1. If you can't get a handgun permit you can forget everything else including long guns. 2. If they wold require a handgun permit if the assault weapon is a handgun which I doubt. There are those who registered M1 carbines, AR15s, and M1As as Pizza Bob related.

It must be done prior to it's original expiration date though. As jackdawack said this is incorrect. I had one that was expired by a week or two and it was renewed with me losing that week or two. Every PD will be different. This is the correct answer. I've had everything from "wait I'll take it back to the chief" to dropping it off and being called a week later.

It seems an old Army entrenching tool (with a wooden handle) can perform most of the functions at a lower price.

NJ does not define misdemeanor and felony. NJ has offenses and crimes. See form sts-033 lines 19 and 20. An offense is equivalent to a misdemeanor while a crime is equivalent to a felony. True but Northern Yankee's "misdemeanor" possession charge would be a yes to 19 or maybe 20 depending on what the maximum sentence could have been. My point is a misdemeanor from somewhere else needs to be translated into NJ terminology.

Being that a misdemeanor is not a crime in NJ you do not even have to mention it on your FID application A misdemeanor is a crim e in NJ and anywhere else. With a misdemeanor conviction if the question is felony then the answer is no, if the question is crime the answer is yes.

Looks like they can even ship with 15rnd mags FWIW H&K makes 15 rd mags for the MP5. These are intended for when its worn concealed.

http://www.judiciary.state.nj.us/prose/index.htm#civil Go about half way down catalog number 10557. He may be able to do it himself. Other states have similar resources.

Go to NJSP.org, public information, click on firearms, go to laws.